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UN should use Israel-bashing model to oust Russia from Ukraine : Comments

By David Singer, published 16/3/2022

The United Nations (UN) General Assembly needs to stop its pious bleating and move to immediately set up a network of Ukrainian-dedicated agencies to try and force Russia to end its invasion and occupation of Ukraine.

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"The UN will cease to have any credibility or relevance if the General Assembly fails to implement these measures."

Forget it, then. The UN has never had those characteristics, and has never shown the slightest embarrassment about it.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 16 March 2022 8:49:11 AM
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Israel is hardly any different to Russia, inasmuch as both are using armed force to try and wrest sovereign territory from the rightful owners. And overreact with unimaginable brutality when those rightful owners say no!

Mr Singer's jaw jaw seems to draw distinctions between Israeli brutality and Russia's?

And imagines the UN confined in a straight jacket, via vetos, can do very much and why he's advocating his impotent UN advocacy!?

Mr Singer would be much more helpful if he just put an effing sock in it and STFU. Ken oath.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 16 March 2022 10:48:40 AM
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David Singer,

There you go again. You deliberately miss the crucial elements of difference in support between the Russian and Israeli aggression.

You are just ranting pointlessly ... with crucial omissions..

Firstly, in the UN Security Council Russia vetoed the motion criticising Russia's illegal invasion and occupation. Just as the US vetoes motions criticising Israelis illegal invasion and occupation of traditional Palestinian lands ... and its ongoing thefts.

Secondly, the vast majority of Western Liberal Democracies have outright condemned Russia's illegal invasion and occupation. The unison is far greater than any criticism levelled at Israel. Perhaps that should change.

Far fewer nations have done the same for Palestine. Some do but far fewer have committed munitions, weapons, money and humanitarian supplies to Palestine, as they have done for Ukraine. In fact most donate money and humanitarian supplies regularly to both the Israelis and Palestinians. In fact the crucial and only real difference is the US, to the great discredit of the Democrats and Biden, support the Palestinians in far less ways, especially militarily, than they support the Israeli aggressors. In fact it supports them more than the Ukrainians in this regard.

Today the world, outside of the UN, has spoken in support of Ukraine, It does not do the same to the Palestinians.
That you disguise this with your one-sided rants against criticism and calls for and efforts to sanction the aggressive Israelis is really becoming quite tiresome.

I'd suggest you cease with your dishonest hectoring. The West when it evaluates the Russian evil in Ukraine will see a need for reassessment, about threats to peace everywhere and will cause a fundamental reassessment in the mid-east.

Aggression everywhere will be seen for what it is ... evil.

Keith Kennelly
Posted by imajulianutter, Wednesday, 16 March 2022 4:54:55 PM
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First, Ttbn has already stated the obvious: that no-good organisation never had any relevance. It is there only to provide prestigious jobs to worldwide retired politicians.

When the author finds it convenient for his sect, he relies on the empty words of that organisation to grant [parts of] the land of Israel to the Jews, as if it were theirs to give anything, then these words are holy holy holy, but when their empty words do not strike a chord with him, he condemns them as filthy filthy filthy.

The fact is that their vacuous words never mattered. The Israelis (not the Jews!) took over their land by their own sweat blood and tears and not by the speeches of retired politicians. They would have done exactly the same whether or not "articles 6, 25 or 80" or "resolution 242" ever existed.

Similarly the fact is that Putin (and Xi) can only be stopped by brave people wielding missiles and other weapons who are willing to die for their freedom, not by further chattering committees that are designed to provide employment for more failed and side-pushed ancient politicians.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 16 March 2022 7:37:29 PM
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Needs reminder that the main reason Russian military was sent into Ukraine was the Presidents of Donetsk and Lugansk, which declared independence from Ukraine after the US sponsored coup in 2014 ASKED for help. The government in Kiev had been conducting a war against them for 8 years resulting in deaths of around 14,000 people, hoping to retake the area by force and had largely ignored peace agreements. The main aim of Russia is to help subdue the Ukrainian military enough to get them right out of territories claimed by these republics and have arrangements made to permanently exclude them . Seems unlike former Soviet Union, the Russian Federation does not want to expand territory except in areas where residents are strongly in favour of joining it, as they were in Crimea. Doubtful Russians want to stay in Donetsk and Lugansk unless to help locals maintain security. Now seems to me that the Zionists in Israel deserve to be treated the same way the Ukrainian military is in Donetsk and Lugansk where residents have for the last 8 years been trying to get them out. Rightful owners of the land, the Palestinians need outside help to get rid of what amounts to "Khazarian Mafia" type Jews who have moved into their country and often been given more rights than themselves.
Posted by mox, Wednesday, 16 March 2022 9:40:16 PM
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#mox

You state:
"Rightful owners of the land, the Palestinians need outside help to get rid of what amounts to "Khazarian Mafia" type Jews who have moved into their country and often been given more rights than themselves."

Wrong. The Palestinians are not the rightful owners of the land. Ownership is disputed between the Jews and the Arabs.

Judea and Samaria (West Bank), East Jerusalem and Gaza were areas of former Palestine in which reconstitution of the Jewish National Home was authorised by article 6 and article 25 of the League of Nations Mandate for Palestine - which right has been preserved by article 80 of the United Nations Charter.

Moreover the Palestine Liberation Organisation on its formation in 1964 did not claim regional sovereignty over the "West Bank in the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan" or the Gaza Strip.

The Arab residents of the West Bank remained citizens of Jordan from 1950 to 1988.

Get your facts straight before you rush into print making assertions that are simply not true.
Posted by david singer, Friday, 18 March 2022 9:03:06 AM
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