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UN should use Israel-bashing model to oust Russia from Ukraine : Comments

By David Singer, published 16/3/2022

The United Nations (UN) General Assembly needs to stop its pious bleating and move to immediately set up a network of Ukrainian-dedicated agencies to try and force Russia to end its invasion and occupation of Ukraine.

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Anyone that thinks that there are "presidents" of the breakaway states is either a moron or a Russian Shill.

The attack by Russia was completely unprovoked and unjustified. The deliberate attacks on civilians have made Putin and his generals war criminals.
Posted by shadowminister, Friday, 18 March 2022 2:37:47 PM
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Davis Singer: You need reminding of the origins of Israel . In 1917 the British were on track to take control of Palestine from the disintegrating Ottoman Empire but war was at effectively at a stalemate. The US had kept out of it. However British politicians promised Zionists in the US who had a lot of political influence - especially in the media that if the US joined the Allied war effort, they would create a Jewish homeland in Palestine. This was successful. Basically giving away territory that was already fully owned and occupied by people already there. It gained significant support from some other governments with the obvious hidden agenda of wanting to get rid of the types of Jews in their countries they regarded as parasites. Including the Haavara agreement with Nazi Germany to help German Jews emigrate to Israel. Then important to note that Jews that have within the last 100 years moved to Israel mainly do not have historical connections to Palestinian Jews of Biblical times. They largely originate from the rogue Kingdom Of Khazaria north and east of the Black Sea. It was pushed into embracing one of the three Abrahamic religions - of which Judaism was adopted with the aim of reducing bad behaviour by neighbouring Russia and Persia around 1,200 years ago. Then around 500 years later, they broke up this rogue kingdom and some of the Khazarian leaders who had Satanic beliefs as well as Judaism spread themselves around Europe. Now these types with Khazarian heritage are continuing to steal Palestinian land. Also, treating other types of Jews - especially Palestinians as second class citizens.
Posted by mox, Monday, 21 March 2022 8:39:47 AM
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#mox

More rubbish, lies and misleading misinformation from you.

You state:
"However British politicians promised Zionists in the US who had a lot of political influence - especially in the media that if the US joined the Allied war effort, they would create a Jewish homeland in Palestine. This was successful."

What is your evidence for making this outrageous statement?

The facts are:
"On April 2, 1917, President Woodrow Wilson went before a joint session of Congress to request a declaration of war against Germany. Wilson cited Germany’s violation of its pledge to suspend unrestricted submarine warfare in the North Atlantic and the Mediterranean, as well as its attempts to entice Mexico into an alliance against the United States, as his reasons for declaring war. On April 4, 1917, the U.S. Senate voted in support of the measure to declare war on Germany. The House concurred two days later. The United States later declared war on German ally Austria-Hungary on December 7, 1917."
https://history.state.gov/milestones/1914-1920/wwi

You also state:
"Basically giving away territory that was already fully owned and occupied by people already there."

Rubbish - Palestine was part of the Ottoman Empire for the previous 400 years. Most of it was State lands. Palestine comprised just 0.01% of the Ottoman Empire that was set aside for the Jews after World War 1. The other 99.99% was set aside for the Arabs.

You further state:
"It gained significant support from some other governments"

Actually "it" - the reconstitution of the Jewish National Home in Palestine - gained the unanimous agreement of all 51 members of the League of Nations.

The rest of your comment is a racist rant that brands you as an out and out Jew-hater.

Answer this question please:

Why do you hate Jews so much?

Also still waiting for your response to my comment on Friday, 18 March 2022 9:03:06 AM. Does your silence indicate you accept the facts set out in my comment?
Posted by david singer, Monday, 21 March 2022 9:43:28 AM
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Seeing you telling someone to get their facts eight caused m e to laugh with scorn at your hypocrisy.

David half truths, which you constantly spout, are also lies, and certainly not facts.

Tell me, honestly, who lived in Palestine before the bleating of the manipulated useless bureaucrats in the League of Nations?

Answer: Arabs and Jews ... without suppressive military occupation.

So what happened?
Posted by imajulianutter, Monday, 21 March 2022 6:18:24 PM
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Dear Imajulianutter,

«Answer: Arabs and Jews ... without suppressive military occupation.»

Nobody lived in "Palestine" because there is no such place on earth.

By using this dirty word which was purposefully devised by the Roman suppressive military occupation to humiliate the defeated Israelis, both the author and yourself demonstrate contempt of Israel and its people.

Israel was under a string of several occupations, including the corrupt Ottomans where bribery was the law and under which both Muslims (a combination of Bedouin Arabs and converted Israelis) and Jews suffered extremely heavy taxation, were poor and often starved to death.

The original Zionist vision of Theodor Herzl and others was of a new modern, "enlightened" society where both Jews and Arabs lived happily together, very unlike the territorial/colonial/Messianic dreams of the author's Jewish sect. At least until 1929, probably even 1936, the Zionists pushed for this vision which would not only solve the European "Jewish problem" but help the local Arabs as well, never aiming for an exclusive Jewish state. Sadly the stupid Arabs declined that offer and instead used violence (and some still do) to try to thwart that idea.

To understand the situation better rather than pretend it to be a Jewish-Arab conflict, the local Arabs had no problem with Jewish presence, and likely wouldn't even mind about Jewish control replacing Turkish control if that allowed them to put more bread on the table. However, Zionism along with its "enlightened" European spirit posed a great challenge to the traditional Islamic (and Jewish!) lifestyle, thus threatened the Muslim clerics who incited the masses against the "Jews" who dared to introduce this trend in the Middle-East.

Till today we see this phenomenon in Afghanistan, but somehow Zionism succeeded where both Russian and American armies failed!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 22 March 2022 6:44:05 AM
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