Make the biased ABC into a subscription service & spend the $1.1billion pa on health, education etc & not waste it on the Lefty ABC letting the Left pay for their propaganda while the ABC dissapears

I can't believe that the ABC has got away with an "independent" review panel made up of ABC insiders. If anyone else tried to pull that stunt they would be laughed out of the park.

It is far beyond the time that the ABC should be held to the principles of their charter.

All of my adult life there have been politicians submitting one proposal or another to reform the ABC and make it conform to it's founding charter. That chartr was for the ABC to provide the public with UNBIASED news.

Nothing ever changes.

The never ending storreeeeeee.

The ABC is the publicly funded propaganda and public relations arm of Labor and the Greens. It is irreformable. At least half the population hates the ABC with a passion. I consider it to be like CRT. Most right wing politicians were ignorant of ordinry people's depth of feeling about CRT until parents stood up in school halls and told the lefty teachers to shove it. Right wing politicians do not realise how much support they would get from the public if they just made the abolishment of the ABC an election promise.

If the Nazi Party promised to abolish the ABC I would even vote for them.

I support the ABC because it is a national broadcaster with no advertisements, and provides me with the news in a format which does not have irritating frequent breaks for weather reports and advertisements.

It also provides a wide range of topics and informative reports on science, business and technology, which the commercial channels fail to do. For the young, it has a great diversity of subjects, well presented and educational.

So how does that compare to the commercial channels? It all a matter of choice. And that is what we should have in a democracy- something for everybody- regardless of race, religion or wealth.

To limit choice is to deny that freedom which is enshrined in our democratic constitution. Australians of all ages enjoy the ABC. Contrary to some claims the young of this country like the ABC due to its wide coverage of subjects, while older folk enjoy the music, documentaries, movies and stories presented- without advertisements!

Long live the wonderful, unbiased, ABC.

ateday,
Are you the ABC Tea Lady ?

Like your news censored, & tailored to the correct narrative do you Cyclone?

The unbiased ABC died a long time ago.

The ABC is demonstrably the least biased news organisation we have in this country by a long mile.

It certainly doesn't need fixing but rather to continue to engage in reviewing its operations which it does already.

The only reason anyone in government would carve it up would be to direct funding to the sections they approved of and starve those they don't, something which would dramatically diminish its independence.

The forces railed against the ABC are considerable and while some thing it is mainly politically based there is a pernicious foreign owned company in particular who for purely commercial reasons, and the further gaining of power, would like to see it eradicated or privatised.

The usual monkeys at their keyboards on this forum and others fail to recognise that agenda and rather regurgitate the talking points about bias.

Consent for the tearing down of our national broadcaster has been manufactured for years and shows no sign of abating. It will need to be continually resisted.

Thanks SR. The first line of your post provided the huge belly laugh I really needed this morning.

A new level of BS, even for you.

I listen to the ABC, NPR and New York Public Radio in the USA, and the BBC, all on google home.

They all sound similar to me, yet US public radio does not rely on public funding.

The best debating shows between different political views are on US public radio

Cyclone,
no Ads as such yes but what about the insane repetition of ABC promos ? They're no less aggravating than ads on commercial TV.
What about their pro Left etc promotions ?
No mate, the ABC is not un-biased on the contrary !

Why is it the Coalitions "failure" to fix the ABC. I'd have though it's the Left orientated ABC management & doctrine that is the failure.
Lefties jump up & down bleating waste of tax Dollars when a Coalition held electorate receives funding but they keep perfectly silent when over a Billion goes towards their advertising company !
Talk about hypocrisy !

The ABC is demonstrably biased. What is worse is that the only review of their content is done by a self-appointed panel of ABC groupies.

The first step to normalising the ABC would be to put together a real independent media watch to review their non-compliance with their charter.

TBH, it is dreamland stuff that the ABC will ever return to being an unbiased media source.

Politics long ago was less divisive.

Now there are bigger policy cleavages. The coalition is increasingly unwilling to tolerate criticism of its own tendency to adopt harsher policy stances when compared to the other side. The ABC is also more of a feelgood entity supporting more dreamy (can do) policy stances and gravitating to that audience.

Today there is much less need for the ABC, and it should be more willing to fund itself to a greater extent. Perhaps then it will find a more balanced approach, as I suggest is evident more in the US where public media has little govt assistance.

Dear Hasbeen,

I hope you didn't spill your porridge.

What you neglected to do of course was to name a single news organisation in this country of note which is less bias than the ABC. Unsurprising of course because there isn't one. But why don't you at least give it a try. Generally if you claim something you really do need to be able to back it up.

Dear individual,

There have been a conga line of right and hard right clowns through the board ranks for ages and the current Chair has raised considerable money for the Liberal Party. What more do you want?

Dear Chris Lewis,

Can you please demonstrate any recent or otherwise overt bias by the ABC?

Shadowminister,

Go and deal with your fixation on micropenises, something with deeply disturbing connotations. Come back and contribute when you have dealt with it.

SR, hard to demonstrate.

More in its tone.

Global warming is an issue where the ABC hardly accommodates reasons why it is hard to achieve real greenhouse reductions whether here or overseas.

I don't think the ABC is any worse than other media sources. In fact, I mostly rely on it and prefer it.

SR, I do my own research to try and better understand an issue.

Hence, I do not rely on any media source.

the current Chair has raised considerable money for the Liberal Party. What more do you want?
SteeleRedux,
What a pi$$-poor argument ! The ABC is instrumental in destroying our society at a cost of over a Billion/year. Is that what you want ?

Makes no difference, the worlds eating itself anyway.
They're all so busy pushing their virtue signalling agendas, they don't see how they've become a bunch of hypocrites when all their virtue signalling crap collides.

- The first 2 articles I read.
Article 1:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-02/qld-coronavirus-covid-domestic-violence-coercive-control-report/100666744

"The former president of the Court of Appeal has now handed her report into how to legislate against coercive control to the government and we will see it shortly."
Coercive Control - BAD

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-02/omicron-shows-the-cost-of-vaccine-disparity-between-nations/100666678

"Wealthy countries have been shamed into making pledges to donate large numbers of doses to low- and middle-income countries. But few of these pledges have yet translated into vaccines in arms."

Shamed? Isn't that Coercive Control?

http://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29609677/
Relationships Between Shame, Restrictiveness, Authoritativeness, and Coercive Control in Men Mandated to a Domestic Violence Offenders Program
"Findings suggest that shame plays a role in the commission of coercively controlling behavior both directly and partially through its influence on authority but not through restrictiveness."

So it's ok for the global community to shame ENTIRE NATIONS
- And what exactly do we think the government has been doing for 18+ months, with vaccine mandates, lockdowns etc?
It's ok for governments to use Coercive Control on it's CITIZENS.

- Funny, there was no mention of that stuff in the article.

Moral to the story - the world is eating itself, with its retarded virtue signalling hypocrisies.

Interesting though apparently ALL men aren't bad anymore,
Maybe that means all men aren't rapists after all?

"A spin off from a patriarchal system is that men are particularly effective change agents," Ms McMurdo said.
(Are these people completely retarded? They want pro-women-men to destroy the 'patriarchal' system. It's hilarious.)
"And male leaders who call out sexist behaviour are more favourably regarded because of it. For all you good men change-agents, it's a win-win!"

I'm just going to go and tuck sausage and beans between my legs like a good accepted male would... NOT.

Dear individual,

Destroying our society? Don't be daft. Where did you hear that from, the young Libs?

Dear Chris Lewis,

You may be under a small misapprehension. News agencies really aren't the source are they, rather they report using sources.

If the ABC isn't worse than others which would you put on par?

And "tone" really isn't a decent basis for concluding they are biased, especially as the Murdock media empire is very good at setting that tone in people.

SR,

It was great that you admitted that the ABC is biased.

Perhaps you could mention another news organisation that gets $1bn from taxpayers or whose charter requires them to remain unbiased?

If the ABC didn't get this huge pile of cash from the taxpayers I would not give a crap.

If OLO wants a comedian, Steelredux, Graham Young will get a proper, funny one.

If the ABC is not biased, how come so many of it's defenders claim that the ABC may be biased but by doing so it gives an opposing view to right wing media?

Your logic is bankrupt.

The quickest way to "FIX" the ABC would be to give it, lock stock & barrel to the staff. That way we would quickly find out how much advertising or subscribers it could gather.

Those huge salaries for the self satisfied garbage they flood the air with at our expense, would find out very quickly their true value.

The ABC needs to improve, but as do other television stations and the media.

Knowing that won't happen, I simply watch less television, do not buy newspapers and do better things elsehwere.

There is also a general stance of not wanting to offend others on mainstream television, but one problem is finding those with alternative views, their views need to stack up and have some credibility - so avoiding anti vaccination propoganda is perfectly fair and reasonable.

The ABC does have an excellent program, Media Watch and one program does cover Julia Baird who is a host of The Drum on the ABC. I don't watch it much anymore, as it is not overly challenging in terms of debate and the type guests that tend to appear have a similar overtone in terms of views. This also applies with Q&A on the ABC.

In one episode of The Drum Julia looks at an issue from a particular perspective but leaves out other details - and the ABC stands by misleading viewers and you can view more detail at:

http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/episodes/an-unholy-row/9972570

I don't think people should waste their time trying to fix the media at all, including the attitudes of hosts of some programs. Simply turn television off, don't watch it, don't buy newspapers and avoid the media online.

You may though like to watch Bluey on the ABC it is the best television show in Australia!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1M282QnTFE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEX5T7WfUAk

Hilarious how nativist &/or authoritarian conservatives bleat endlessly about the ABC while silent on what is the benchmark, 7WM, 9F or NewsCorp?

The latter operate in non market oligopoly which was created to support and/or appease 'special interests' i.e. foreign citizen Murdoch's need to be free from constraints (he managed the same in the UK years ago too); in return media give free media and polling support to the LNP (in lesser democracies would require govt. leaders and ministers to resign aka Austria).

Further, how many people publicly recognised as conservative have been employed by the ABC, on the board or constantly invited as guest? Too many ABC tv or radio talk programs follow the cliched Fox 'fair and balanced' by inviting on wing nuts, retired or existing LNP MPS, IPA sock puppets et al., but still complain?

Just more evidence that supposedly libertarian Australians are 'Tory snowflakes' fearful of their own shadows and of others' authority, if they are not doing the bidding for a higher authority (then be thrown under a bus when their use by date is up)?

How smart are Australians or LNP MPs who are against the ABC, but happy to do the bidding of imported US radical right libertarian socio-economic ideology, and NewsCorp demanding particular govt. budgets and services are cut (but not others like defence, religious school support, lobbying, kleptocracy etc.)?

As libertarian free speech conservatives would opine, if you don't like the ABC, change the channel or station..... and leave your aggression and threats for the sporting field vs. resorting to shutting down others' free speech through SLAPPs or defamation action.

Anglo libertarian ideology has morphed into authoritarianism for citizens, but freedom for the 'top people' aka Brexit, Trump and the Australian govt. is still trying to follow a Trumpian path to electoral victory..... based upon conspiracy theories; no wonder trusted and truthful media needs to be avoided?

Andras,

The private media ranges from the far left Guardian thru the SMH and Age to the conservative Newscorp and the far right. None of them is paid for by the taxpayer and nobody cares.

As I said before, if the ABC paid for itself I would care less about the dross it produces. However, it sucks up $1bn of funds that could go to hospitals or policing and produces an almost exclusively far-left agenda.