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Democrats impeaching Trump fuel hatred, division and violence : Comments
By David Singer, published 9/2/2021The first unsuccessful impeachment of Trump was a major contributing factor in the Democrats seeing their 235-199 control of the House of Representatives reduced to 220-212.
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Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 1:58:04 PM
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Dear shadowminister,
You whinged: "This combined with the highly partisan action taken by house democrats to exclude a republican congresswoman from committees will also be remembered when the republicans take the house" What? Please name a single redeeming feature of that bat shtt crazy female. Full blown fruit loop no sane person would want a bar of. Is this really what you have been reduced to, sticking up for the worst even the Republican party can muster? Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 3:19:52 PM
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Hi Shadowminister
Re your request: "Incitement would need to include Trump either directly instructing the crowd to invade the Capitol or making statements to the crowd that could only be interpreted that way." You realise Trump's speech is around 10,000 words? I'm working through it. The mob heard the parts of the speech Trump stressed. Read and view parts of the speech well Shadow: 1. NOTE WHAT TRUMP EXPLAIN'S TO THE MOB at this point in his SPEECH http://youtu.be/mh3cbd7niTQ?t=1m13s 2. NOTE KEY WORDS OF VIOLENCE IN TRUMP'S SPEECH TEXT at http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/1/11/full-transcript-donald-trump-january-6-incendiary-speech "Now it is up to Congress to confront this egregious assault on our democracy. After this, we’re going to walk down and I’ll be there with you. We’re going to walk down. We’re going to walk down any one you want, but I think right here. We’re going walk down to the Capitol, and we’re going to cheer on our brave senators, and congressmen and women. We’re probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them because you’ll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength, and you have to be strong. We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated, lawfully slated. I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard. Today we will see whether Republicans stand strong for integrity of our elections, but whether or not they stand strong for our country, our country... ...They had their point of view, I had my point of view. But you’d have an argument. Now what they do is they go silent. It’s called suppression. And that’s what happens in a communist country. That’s what they do. They suppress. You don’t fight with them any more, unless it’s a bad... It’s suppression and you have to be very careful with that. And they’ve lost all credibility in this country. We will not be intimidated into accepting the hoaxes and the lies that we’ve been forced to believe..." Posted by plantagenet, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 3:35:31 PM
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Trump called on the crowd to go "marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."
Peacefully and patriotically...incitement to riot and revolution if I've ever heard it. /sarc off. The impeachment is a fake, just like impeachment 1. The first one, we now know, was initiated to hide the Biden corruption in Ukraine. And not just corruption by Hunter, but also by the 'big guy' - aka president asterisk. This was always clear to those familiar with the facts, but should be obvious to even those less inclined to fact-seeking following the revelation from the Biden laptop. But for many, TDS creates visual filters. This impeachment has three purposes. First is to deflect from the first month or two of the Xiden administration and assaults on democracy being waged by the DNC. The second is to continue to hold Trump up as a bogeyman for the TDS crowd. After all, Xiden offers and offered nothing except that he wasn't Trump. Without Trump around playing Emmanuel Goldstein to the Dems Big Brother, the fact that Biden has nothing to offer would become blindingly obvious to even the dimmest of Democrat black-shirts. Thirdly, the Dems remain terrified of a Trump comeback. His support from Republicans remains unchanged and that will only increase as the Democrat agenda is revealed eg Keystone Pipeline. He still has the support of his 74 million voters and that will solidify as more and more evidence mounts that the election was stolen (anyone read the Time Magazine revelations?). So the best result for the Democrats is that Trump be banned from running again, even if he wanted to. They won't get their wish. A cabal of globalists, unions, big tech and Wall St conspired (their word) to swing the election to the Chinese candidate. The overlooked working and middle class, when they see the full globalist agenda won't be happy. The Dems know this and, while they'll change the rules to make the voters immaterial, having Trump out of the way will make that easier. Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 6:08:14 PM
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Mhaze,
And 'fight like hell'. What, peacefully, against Capitol Police ? So five people died ? And no hints whatever about hanging Mike Pence ? Not even the gallows set up outside ? Get a grip. No, loosen it just a bit. But I suppose whatever fits your narrative, that's what you run with, regardless of its validity. Joe Posted by loudmouth2, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 6:25:05 PM
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Dear mhaze,
5 people died mate, does that sound peaceful to you? This was incitement. "We're gathered together in the heart of our nation's Capitol for one very, very basic and simple reason, to save our democracy." "We will not let them silence your voices. We're not going to let it happen. Not going to let it happen." "Our country has had enough. We will not take it anymore and that's what this is all about. To use a favorite term that all of you people really came up with, we will stop the steal." "That's what they've done and what they're doing. We will never give up. We will never concede, it doesn't happen. You don't concede when there's theft involved." "When you catch somebody in a fraud, you're allowed to go by very different rules." "Let them get out. Let the weak ones get out. This is a time for strength....It's all part of the comprehensive assault on our democracy and the American people to finally standing up and saying, 'No.' This crowd is again a testament to it." "You will have an illegitimate president, that's what you'll have. And we can't let that happen." "We will not be intimidated into accepting the hoaxes and the lies that we've been forced to believe over the past several weeks. We've amassed overwhelming evidence about a fake election." "We're going to see whether or not we have great and courageous leaders or whether or not we have leaders that should be ashamed of themselves throughout history, throughout eternity, they'll be ashamed. And you know what? If they do the wrong thing, we should never ever forget that they did. Never forget. We should never ever forget." Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 7:06:53 PM
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It could mean find that many fraudulent Biden votes and that would mean his win.
In that context I think as they would not have any more Trump votes
but by finding votes that were fraudulent they more easily achieve the same end.
It just seem more likely.