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The dangerous use of the military : Comments

By David Leyonhjelm, published 25/9/2020

Ever since the Romans, standing armies have been viewed with deep suspicion. They are expensive to maintain, which often leads to onerous taxation, and they have an appalling record as instruments of oppression.

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"Sections 92 and 117 of the constitution guarantee free movement of people and trade between the states."

We now know that this is not true. Piddling state premiers have closed borders, and the equally piddling prime minister has done nothing about it. Constitutional 'guarantees' in Australia are as useful as the warranty on a Chinese watch.

Who would have thought that we would ever see anyone writing that Australian police "have attacked people"? But that's what they now do, the thugs even manacling a little woman in her own home.

However, there has been no sign of the ADF manhandling or touching members of the public. And criticism of a standing army is absolute idiocy.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 25 September 2020 10:36:33 AM
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> In Blackstone’s 1768 Commentaries on the Laws of England, Henry St. George Tucker wrote:
So not written by Sir William Blackstone, but by an American revolutionary seeking credibility by association!

>“Wherever standing armies are kept up, and when the right of the people to keep and
>bear arms is, under any colour or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not >already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction.”
And this has subsequently been disproved by many Commonwealth countries.

> Sections 92 and 117 of the constitution guarantee free movement of people and trade between the states.
Not exactly. Section 92 guarantees free trade between the states, and this has been maintained throughout the pandemic. Section 117 ensures residents of other states have the same rights under the law as the state's own residents, but does not actually prevent closure of the borders.

> And the only reason it is able to occur is because the ADF is providing assistance.
We saw what happened in Victoria where things were left to private contractors instead. I for one am glad the ADF is now doing the job.

The ADF could, if needed, be immediately redeployed to a national defence role. But if you think that would have any relation to the worsening situation with China, you seriously misunderstand that situation.
Posted by Aidan, Friday, 25 September 2020 11:27:18 AM
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You're quite right David. Unfortunately with the exception of the genuine asylum seekers here the living population largely see no danger.
As Yuri Bezmenov warned they only realise when they feel the boot crushing their throat.
Posted by jamo, Friday, 25 September 2020 11:57:16 AM
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Do some people actually think a decease can be made to take notice of the Constitution ?
Posted by individual, Friday, 25 September 2020 12:22:32 PM
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Our military are beyond reproach and have served us and freedom, with rare distinction overall! Won't allow a control freak to badmouth them without a reply. GPYFH in, David This is a topic we the people and I will not allow you to politicise!

We are not the few bad apples that every culture/society have. I mean should we all be judged by the actions of a white supremacist/nutter with a gun, armed with a semiautomatic, murdering at will one day in Christchurch or earlier, in Hobart?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 25 September 2020 2:13:52 PM
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Don’t worry about threats from a ‘standing army’ interested in gender bending and recruiting girls; we have a booming police state in Victoria. And, the polls would have us believe that 85% of Victorians support this police state, where freedoms have been ground into the dirt without public debate or parliamentary scrutiny.

The Andrew’s government has taken control of every aspect of Victorian’s lives, changing them hour by hour, at a the whim of politicians and bureaucrats. The politicised police force has granted immunity to BLM activists, but has arrested and kicked down the doors of people who do not think the same way the government does.

Now, there is the Covid-19 Omnibus (Emergency Measures) and Other Acts Amendment Bill, which has already passed the lower house.

This ‘thing’ is completely odious and draconian, granting powers - including arrest - to non-police personnel. If this Bill comes into effect, it is all over for Victoria. The best that can be hoped for is the entertainment afforded by the sight on TV of untrained people getting the crap belted out of them as they attempt to detain people who don’t want to be detained. It often takes half a dozen trained police officers to subdue one uncooperative person.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 25 September 2020 3:14:44 PM
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