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By David Leyonhjelm, published 25/9/2020Ever since the Romans, standing armies have been viewed with deep suspicion. They are expensive to maintain, which often leads to onerous taxation, and they have an appalling record as instruments of oppression.
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Posted by Bazz, Friday, 25 September 2020 3:15:10 PM
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One of Leyno's subtexts looks USA inspired:
See http://teachinghistory.org/history-content/ask-a-historian/24671 “A standing military force, with an overgrown Executive will not long be safe companions to liberty,” Posted by plantagenet, Saturday, 26 September 2020 12:27:03 AM
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Yes Leyno DOES mention american founding father aversion to standing Army (more at http://teachinghistory.org/history-content/ask-a-historian/24671 ).
However in the US now (NOT HERE) standing army aversion is often conflated with state or local Militia rights to bear arms to make them more powerful than a US Federal Standing Army. Posted by plantagenet, Saturday, 26 September 2020 12:52:54 AM
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If the average Citizen had more sense in the first place Armies wouldn't be needed !
Our society has now so far degenerated that we'll need the Army to assist the Police ! Any riots, raging parties etc, soldiers should automatically become Police deputies ! Posted by individual, Saturday, 26 September 2020 7:37:17 AM
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"The proposed legislation effectively consolidates Victoria as a police state where informers and collaborators will assist the authorities in tracing and incarcerating their fellow citizens without warrants, on the basis of prospective conduct." (Augusto Zimmermann). Any person could be detained for almost anything if this Bill is passed. The development is seen as the "consolidation of an oppressive, authoritarian regime", which "seeks to enlist the population as informers and arms of the state in rounding up others who are guilty of no offence". Just like the old Communist 'Iron Curtain' regimes and the current Chinese one.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 26 September 2020 10:01:10 AM
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When a small noncompliant cohort of anarchists, are as Asmptomaic super spreaders, spreading a highly infectious killer disease as far and wide as possible? Decent law-abiding folk need to dob these mongrels in! No, ifs, buts or maybes.
I mean, it could be your mum and dad or grandma or grandad, sister brother, cousins or your closest friends on their mindless hit list. You ok with that tbn? This virus needs warm-blooded hosts to live and spread. Albeit it can survive up to 7 days on some surfaces? And the reason why masks and good hand hygiene are so efective in stopping as much as 80% of the transmission If that is denied that/them, i.e., warm-blooded hosts, for a full 14 days until it is no longer contagious. The spread stops! And with that spread nipped permenently in the bud! The economy and border can fully reopen. It is not the military or the polce or the politicians at fault here! Just the willfully blind, willfully disobdient who are destroying the economy and our lifestyles/freedom! Skilfully aided and abbetted by those who willfully spread false information and point the finger at everyone else, save the real culprits, ttbn! Me I'd setup testing stations at the end of every steet in every hot spot. With those testing positive, incarcerated behind razor wire to guarantee compliance. Until tests prove they're, none of them, no longer contagious! It's not the fault of the police, the army, the politicians or the health workers, some of who have paid the ulimate price for their dedicaion to duty! But the nutters and the beligerant, bellicose, right wing conspiracy theorists, who have encouraged noncompliance, would need to carry the can on this one! Left to me, the latter would face trial for teason and a firing squad! Alan B. Posted by Alan B., Saturday, 26 September 2020 12:12:27 PM
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That clause is in the constitution because the states had customs charges
on goods between the states which some politicians wanted to retain.