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The green road to blackouts : Comments

By Viv Forbes, published 2/9/2020

California leads the way to electricity blackouts, closely followed by South Australia. They both created this problem by taxing, banning, delaying or demolishing reliable coal, nuclear, gas or hydro generators.

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Solar IS nuclear.
Posted by ateday, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 9:38:47 AM
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I want to hear about cheap, reliable thorium power from Alan B again!
Posted by JBowyer, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 10:00:56 AM
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It's four years since we had a blackout caused by renewables in South Australia. There is surely a time limit on the shock/horror of a single incident!

The problem with energy in Australia is that both parties have virtually the same stupid policies. Until that obvious and only cause is fixed at the ballot box by voters refusing to vote for them, it is pointless even raising the subject.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 10:06:54 AM
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Victoria had 200,000 blacked out just last week due to lack of generating capacity. Isn't that enough?

Can you imagine the fun of being locked down in a blacked out high rise apartment? Aint life grand in a green/left blob controlled state.
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 11:02:49 AM
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Yup And made us a sitting duck waiting to be plucked and over reliant on a hostile communist regime! We need to understand that coal and gas have had their day and are finite and for the most part, foreign owned?
By debt-laden, tax-avoiding, price-gouging, profit-repatriating Multinationals? And we need to stop allowing them to call the tune, and just adopt nuclear power, cooperative capitalism and genuine tax reform!

If we develop MStR technology, we can very safely use the most energy dense material in the world, i.e., thorium! And or nuclear waste that other folks pay us annual billions to store.

And we would, but only after we spend most of th 98-95% unspent fuel this product still retains! And in the proccess have someone else pay for all the R+D, the reactors and the unspent fuel. Unspent fuel they pay us handsomely to take off the hands! And unspent fuel that'll safely power this nation 24/7 for thousands of years! Ditto thorium which is so abundant, we can never ever run out of it!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 2 September 2020 1:07:33 PM
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The SA big battery will be expanded to 194 Mwh not a lot when the state appears to use about 10,000 Mwh on a hot day. In 2019 SA got 47% of the electricity generated within the state from the dwindling Cooper and Otway gas fields. Nonetheless renewable enthusiasts say they will eliminate gas by 2030 or 2040 whichever.

A recent study by MIT found that batteries could at best cover 16% of the heatwave peaking power task. Even gas baseload considered too expensive may get a revival if some big coal plants are closed. That's Liddell NSW by 2023 and probably Yallourn Vic by 2030. If the lights are to be kept on and nukes aren't allowed it will be gas, much it shipped from WA.
Posted by Taswegian, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 1:30:31 PM
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