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The green road to blackouts : Comments

By Viv Forbes, published 2/9/2020

California leads the way to electricity blackouts, closely followed by South Australia. They both created this problem by taxing, banning, delaying or demolishing reliable coal, nuclear, gas or hydro generators.

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the latest statement by the Mayor of LA

'Its almost 3pm, time to “Time to turn off major appliances, set the thermostat to 78 degrees (or use a fan instead), turn off excess lights and unplug any appliances you’re not using. We need every Californian to help conserve energy. Please do your part.”

The state that leads the way in renewables. What a totally dumbed down mob we have become. At least China gets to laugh some more as they build their hundreds of coal fired power station. Wake up Scott Morrison!
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 2:30:16 PM
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Trump jr response to Mayors admission of failure

Hard to believe this tweet is real from the Mayor of LA. This is what the democrats will do to this country... #Blackouts
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 2:31:53 PM
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Dear runner,

This is the first time in 19 years that California has had rolling blackouts due to capacity issues. It is experiencing record temperatures at the moment. Any correlation forming in that addled brain of yours yet?
Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 5:44:20 PM
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Normal engineering practise is to have enough generating capacity to
cope with the worse conditions.
Electricity is not like many other fields where you design for say 97%
reliability. With electricity supply you design for 99.9% and do not
really believe you will ever see that .1%.
Hot days would never be an excuse. They have well known frequency and
the highest temperatures which occurred in the 19th century are well
recorded. In any case air conditioning equipment has become a lot more
efficient.
No, you can't blame the environment, it is all due to poor design.
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 10:00:16 PM
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Rolling blackouts are a sign of huge incompetence and a forewarning of the consequences of labor's climate policies in Victoria and South Australia.

In California, power generators have warned the state government of the consequences of closing its fossil fuel generators, and yet the Fwit Democrats are still proposing to close the nuclear power plant just as the moron Dan Andrews closed Hazelwood by tripling the taxes on the coal it was mining.

But I am sure that they will find someone else to blame.
Posted by shadowminister, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 4:04:52 AM
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A further complication to the Victorian energy system is that they are
counting on the output of domestic solar installations which has reached
a significant level and is still increasing.
If I take my panels as an example, in summer at 9am the o/p is 700 watts.
At local midday 12-30 it is 1000 watts, at 2pm it is 800 watts, at
5 pm it is 200 watts and at 7pm it is 6 watts.
You can imagine the winter figures, especially in gloomy Melbourne.
So as you can see just at the time you need it, it is going down hill.
By banking on domestic installations you are on a loosing streak.
Of course tracking would improve matters no end, but how many tracking
installations have you seen ?
Posted by Bazz, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 4:04:39 PM
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