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I am an Aboriginal woman, and my people are hurting : Comments
By Samantha Cooper, published 4/6/2020Reconciliation Week is exhausting at the best of times. Now more than ever, we are bombarded with tidal waves of racism and ignorance.
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Posted by Shadow Minister, Friday, 19 June 2020 12:38:51 PM
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Shadow Minister,
Despite the fact that IQ tests have been used for almost hundred of years - it's still unclear how accurate or fair an IQ test really is. Despite the hype, the relevance, usefullness, and legitimacy of the IQ test it is still hotly debated among educators, social scientists and hard scientists. To understand why, it is important to understand the history underpinning the birth, development and expansion of the IQ test. A history that includes the use of IQ tests to further marginalize ethnic minorities and poor communities. I'll leave it at that. We'll have to agree to disagree on this topic. No surprises there. Posted by Foxy, Friday, 19 June 2020 3:02:03 PM
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LEGO, don't care what the Fascists Brotherly Institute (FBI) has to say about all these 200 times this or that, do you have evidence? Or do you just pluck statistics out of the air.
With all this superior IQ nonsense Europeans over the past 400 years (your number LEGO) have when it comes to slaughtering their own and others, been the most barbaric people on earth. Don't need the FBI to tell us that. Protesting against White oppression in South Africa under the Apartheid Regime was often a death sentence for Blacks. After claiming to be a apartheid protester LEGO seen the error of his way and crossed to the other side. LEGO I'm interested, you claimed to have been protesting the 1971 South African racists rugby tour of Australia, Australia was out of Vietnam 1972, or were you something of a Yank mercenary after 1972. Yet earlier you claimed to be in Vietnam killing "Commies" what year was that? The reason, I find the two somewhat incompatible, the gung-ho commie killer, with the lefty apartheid protester. http://www.cjpmefoundation.org/blacks_under_apartheid_south_africa#:~:text=Official%20death%20toll%3A%20174%20Blacks,1%2C222%20Blacks%20and%206%20Whites. Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 19 June 2020 6:36:40 PM
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To Foxy.
IQ testing is not mumbo jumbo, or reading tea leaves. Intelligence testing is a science and it measures human intelligence accurately. The most positive endorsement of IQ testing's accuracy is that all of those humans of all races tested with having exceptionally high measured IQ always do well in life, while those with low measured IQ always do the opposite. Science says that different races have different mean IQ's. That does not mean that there are no smart blacks or dumb whites, it just means that there are proportionately a lot more blacks with low IQ. And IQ is related to civilisation, which is logical. To create complex societies, humans need to developed those higher thinking abilities which primitive people do not. A primitives' concept of mathematics is "one, two, many." Indian people are black and they have had a civilisation for 3000 years, and they are smart. When Origin of Species was first published it caused a scientific and religious furore. Most people refused to believe that human beings and apes had common ancestors. As late as 1925 in the US state of Tennessee, it was illegal for teachers to teach Evolution is schools. But that was nothing compared to the discovery that all humans had once been black and had evolved in Africa. Even today, the Chinese refuse to believe that their race evolved from black Africans. That is the official position and it is taught as "science" in their high schools. Science has a bad habit of destroying religious beliefs and kooky ideologies. Today, for political and historical reasons, politicians even in the supposed "free world" are promoting a false ideology that all races are equal. The rub is that the only way they can therefore explain away why some minorities are always dysfunctional is to blame the white race. This is leading to race hatred of whites by those dysfunctional minorities who want to believe that we are responsible for all their problems. And you are helping to perpetuate this race hatred of your own race by ignoring science and endorsing a kooky ideology. Posted by LEGO, Friday, 19 June 2020 7:42:40 PM
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To Paul1403
Calling Europeans "the most barbaric people on earth" is racism. It is just ama-a-a-azing how you naive "anti racists" can not even see your own racism towards your own people. You are so used to self flagellating yourselves that you think it is normal. I have been presenting reasoned arguments and convincing evidence that some races are smarter than others for the last 34 pages of this topic. And now you want me to do it again? Well, I will. But first, I have asked you twice to present your evidence that all races are equal, and instead you have prevaricated and presented the premise that all races were of "equal value". This premise was unsupported by any reasoned argument as to what this even means, or why you think that way. If you are debating with somebody who is all over you like a rash and making you feel uncomfortable, maybe it is time to turn on your objective reasoning capability and reassess your entire ideology with logic? In your desperation, you are now questioning my integrity based upon a peculiar inability to understand the timeline as to when I stopped being brainwashed by the Right and the Left and instead started thinking impartially. Which is what smart people are supposed to do. My family had a distinguished military record that I was intensely proud of. My grandfather was not only at Gallipoli, he was badly wounded at Bersheeba (if you even ever heard of that famous battle). My father was in Greece, Crete, Syria, and New Guinea. My uncle Clate a Rat of Tobruk. My uncle Charlie, Bomber Command. Of course as an 18 in year old in 1969 I wanted to fight. But unlike yourself, I did my homework and realised that what our government was telling the public was a stupid lie. They were heady days in the 70's. Us baby boomers thought we could change the world. The next cause the leftists pointed my generation at was Apartheid. I did my homework again and realised that this time the leftists were lying. Posted by LEGO, Friday, 19 June 2020 7:47:48 PM
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LEGO,
Well I can say one thing. This discussion has not been boring. I appreciate the jokes. But for me this discussion has now run its course. I look forward to our next one. Take care. Stay safe. Posted by Foxy, Friday, 19 June 2020 8:27:04 PM
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IQ tests are tests of a persons ability to reason and the system has shown itself to be consistent across different languages and cultures and has been shown to have the strongest correlation to the success of the individual in life than any other testing method.
different cultures and races also have different attributes. The top races for IQ are Jewish and Asian with European falling behind. Color is not a major factor, as Africans are more genetically diverse than the rest of the world and within Africa show a range of IQs.
However, with regard success in life probably the single biggest cause of failure is being raised in a single parent family with the resultant poverty and poor education, and roughly 70% of black children in the USA are in single parent families.
Black children raised with 2 parents have pretty much the same outcomes as children of other races.
The question could then be: Who is responsible for all the single parent families?