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Israel and Palestinians: architects of their own destruction : Comments

By Alon Ben-Meir, published 22/5/2020

As Israel celebrates the 72nd anniversary of its independence, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict continues to simmer as neither side seems to have learned anything from their seven decades-old conflict.

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The only acceptable solution for the Palestinians is for all Jews to
leave Moslem lands. These lands include all land conquered by moslems.
Israel was invaded and conquered in the 8th century by Islam.
The Koran states that land conquered by moslems remains moslem land
even if later they are ejected from that land.
These lands include Greece, Serbia, Hungary Slovenia and part of Austria, Spain and Sicily.
I know you think I am being silly, if so you really do need to research
it all. They have never accepted being ejected from Al-Andalus.
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 1 June 2020 1:25:00 PM
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Dear Tristan,

Thank you for clarifying your position.

I am neither progressive nor Zionist - I just believe that every group of people, small or large, who shares a distinct way of life, ought to be able to live independently on some piece of land (provided of course that they do not harass their neighbours). That piece of land is not a goal in itself, but only the means through which they are free and able to carry on their unique lifestyle.

As for the "right-wing forces are dominating Zionist discourse", may I remind you that it was a socialist-Left Israeli government which conquered and decided to remain in the 1967 occupied territories, then to allow and support the Jewish settlements.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 5 June 2020 12:23:17 AM
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I'm aware left wing Zionists were involved in the original dispossession. Still it took Rabin to offer the only real chance we've had of peace. (Labour) If you want to know my sympathies look up Judah Mages and Ihud.
Posted by Tristan Ewins, Friday, 5 June 2020 9:18:00 AM
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It still would be better if religion were replaced by reason. All parties involved hold their religion dear. However, what they hold dear is really crap.
Posted by david f, Friday, 5 June 2020 10:03:46 AM
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Sorry I mean Judah Magnes.
Posted by Tristan Ewins, Friday, 5 June 2020 10:11:57 AM
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Dear Tristan Ewins,

I looked up Judah Magnes. His promotion of one state with both Jews and Arabs having equal status sounds most fair. As it is Israelis must have clerical approval for marriage, there is no public school system where children of different ethnic and religious backgrounds learn and grow up together, one Jewish sect is in control and there is no separation of religion and state as there would be if Israel really were a democracy rather than calling itself one.

Thank you for informing me of Judah Magnes. He was another voice of reason calling in the wilderness.
Posted by david f, Friday, 5 June 2020 11:35:51 AM
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