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May we discuss 'net zero' 2050? : Comments

By Stephen Saunders, published 27/3/2020

Seventy nations have signed up, for net zero emissions 2050. Before COVID-19 became the only topic, Australia buzzed with it. But what does it mean?

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What does 'net zero' mean? Absolutely nothing. Nobody knows what will happen in 30 years time. Nobody knows what is happening now, with all the lies and rubbish being bruited about. Give the China virus, waffling about carbon dioxide, reducing carbon dioxide, climate change, and all the other fads is just crap.

With the economy crippled after the virus emergency, anyone rabbiting on about climate change and ramping up the cost of electricity and doing business will be torn limb from limb.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 27 March 2020 9:18:23 AM
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Hopefully Christians are seeking the living abd koving God at this moment while the gw cultist spruik their nonsense.
Posted by runner, Friday, 27 March 2020 10:14:54 AM
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We could plant more trees and wait as rising temperatures, longer more enduring droughts, that turn them into fuel for even worse bushfires than we've ever experienced? Unless we could plant them in the dead heart?

Garnaut talks of us becoming a superpower via extracting hydrogen from coal and then exporting it to the world? And burying the carbon.

This would reduce our coal reserve quite massively, And pad the pockets of foreign coal barons, monumentally?

Sure it could be done! We know how. We also know that nobody can afford the astronomical cost of the shipped compressed product! And in that context, makes Garnaut look like an imbecile, rather than a qualified, leading economist

There's no problem with folks taking a trip to dream castles in the clouds, but a huge one when they take up permanent residence.

This coal-fired, diabolically disingenuous rubbish, comes straight out of the desperate, coal baron/robber baron's handbook?

The mystery is that some apparently sane and allegedly intelligent folk, are buying this, great big fat inexactitude? And queuing to buy shares, giggling all the while?

We're off to see the wizard, the wonderful wizard of Oz. TBC.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 27 March 2020 10:18:05 AM
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ttbn,
Net zero means we don't put any more CO2 into the air than we take out.
The effects of CO2 in the atmosphere are the same regardless of the state of the economy. But dealing with the problem doesn't mean paying more for electricity. Rising gas rices were the main cause of higher electricity prices.
Posted by Aidan, Friday, 27 March 2020 10:33:36 AM
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runner,
Hopefully Christians are seeking the living and loving God at this moment while the denialist cultists spruik their nonsense.
Keep your eyes open! Whether something is true doesn't depend on whether it conforms to your misunderstanding of scripture.
Posted by Aidan, Friday, 27 March 2020 10:36:43 AM
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Net-zero, is the term we could apply to our pocketbooks and bank accounts if any of this coal-fired insanity is acted on?

And because of the energy source whose name can't/won't be mentioned! Instead, we get a conga line of half-assed schemes from the coal lobby and its literate lackeys. Where we socialise the losses and privatise the profits.

And as such, they cannot lose! Just you and I/joe average/useful idiots, who keep returning these zero heroes time after time! And pay the tab! I mean, it was obvious from day one that the only way to stop covid-19, was a total shutdown and borders closed at the shire level. And even at the suburban level

Shoppers should've been obliged to show some photo ID, before they could've entered the local supermarket to buy what a maxed-out credit card could stand.

Had such behaviour come with a hefty fine, 3-5 demerit points or some such on the spot remedy. May have prevented the, she'll be rights, fruit-loops, from killing other folks far from their normal domiciles? Even as they emptied local village supermarkets!

All the cruises should have been quarantined on offshore islands, as if they were boat people, out to inflict harm! Talk about border security and the keystone cops policing it!

There's only one way to obtain zero emissions, without tanking the economy, but quite massively turbocharging it and that is via nuclear energy and electrifying the entire economy!

It's the sane equivalent of a total shutdown in the face of a pandemic!

And if done as it could be? Creating an economy and energy prices that is/are the envy of the world! I'll explain in chapter and verse later.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 27 March 2020 10:53:02 AM
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