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May we discuss 'net zero' 2050? : Comments

By Stephen Saunders, published 27/3/2020

Seventy nations have signed up, for net zero emissions 2050. Before COVID-19 became the only topic, Australia buzzed with it. But what does it mean?

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What they found in California was that both those touting carbon sinks and politicians politely refrain from talking about the problems with it.
https://energycentral.com/c/cp/california%E2%80%99s-cap-and-trade-program-may-vastly-overestimate-emissions-cuts
In FY 2019 land use contributed about -20 Mt to get to the net figure of + 532 Mt CO2e. Then some say summer fires added about 400 Mt almost doubling annual CO2. We're assured the fires avoided the 'carbon farms' paid under the Emissions Reduction Fund.

In Garnaut's happy world trees don't succumb to fire, dieback or drought. Yet key firefighters are saying we may be better off with fewer trees not more. Chemical carbon capture cannot possibly make enough difference, for example Gorgon failing so far in its promise to inject 120 Mt CO2 below Barrow Island WA. Then there's 'international permits' whereby basket weaving in the UKkraine or whatever will cancel out Australia's coal emissions. Articles like this need to keep pointing out it is largely fraud.
Posted by Taswegian, Friday, 27 March 2020 10:53:37 AM
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Aidan,

Perhaps you and people like you could stop exhaling, thereby reducing a lot of CO2 emissions, and a lot of hot air.

In a genuine crisis like the one we have now, carrying on about CO2 is irresponsible and stupid.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 27 March 2020 11:58:42 AM
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tbbn, runner. Spot on.

This was only worth reading to confirm the CCC (not KKK cousins, the guy who make expensive turbochargers for gas guzzling cars foer the rich like Merc owners, and Porsche hoons!) will do anything at any time even in mid crisis to promote their cause... akin to morons, clergy etc converting or asking for money at the death beds of confirmed atheists! and as bad as Adam, whining' Bandt contribution re rent assistance.

This is one on the most direct pieces of CCC propaganda/opportunism I have seen that will try to use the post-COVID19 to deliver Essery's "Scared New World" two days ago.

tos use an old saying of my Granny, " They would sell even their Granny to promote their Global warming driven "Scared New World"
CCultists, worse than religious' beggers' at an athesist death bed and funeral service.
Posted by Alison Jane, Friday, 27 March 2020 12:34:47 PM
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I hate wasteing posts with ps add ons…. must be that senility Aidan has just today confirmed by his/she/it medical/professional 'virtual consultation with his telepathic CC powers' Impressive stuff we oldies are so baffled and impressed by.

Seriously, point is re "Australians, it seems, want coal exit, energy transition and Net Zero. The first two are plenty difficult enough. The third is something else." line in authors article.

Is this the same solid research (fact-checked by ABC Melbourne UNI CCC luvies)that gave us the "97% scientists agree/consensus", that CCCers Obama and IPCC so love to quote? …...and they had the hubris to accuse Ex-PM Howard of hubris!

At the moment is hard for "pig-ignorant", "senile" old-tarts like me which to be most threatened by, COVID-19 or Dr Norman Swan, 'Mads' the ABC Fact-check ( and also new Corona-check) girl, the CCC of Grimacing Greta... Yeah its Grimacing Greta, she probably has plans to euthanise old tart, climate realists like me and turn us into Solent Green....

Hmmmmmmm... yummy granny green, sugar free sweets to feed the indoctrinating kiddies at pre school, where teachers will say eating these is good for Gaia, using picture books showing the process in graphic detail! Kids luv that gory stuff!
Posted by Alison Jane, Friday, 27 March 2020 12:55:25 PM
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Net zero means we don't put any more CO2 into the air than we take out.
Aidan,
Is that even possible ? I mean, unless we curb population growth the Net Zero thingo needs to be re-calculated. Increased population=increased output & usage !
But the planet is not increasing nor is its atmosphere or ability to absorb.
COVID-19 is our last wake-up call !
Posted by individual, Friday, 27 March 2020 1:25:57 PM
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The IPA's Bella d'Abrera writes that the China virus has caused, "In a single, definitive stroke, the progressive social justice movement and all its trappings (to be) silenced". Sky's Paul Murray thought a few nights ago that the looney Left was frustrated because its constant chatter had been silenced.

Stephen Saunders hasn't about that
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 27 March 2020 3:58:29 PM
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