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Hastie warns us to beware of the Chinese dragon : Comments

By Peter West, published 13/8/2019

But in the light of the threat of domination by a foreign power not interested in human rights, Australians chatter about things of very small significance.

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Dear Individual,

Tibet was not under Western yoke when it was ghastly conquered and enslaved by the Chinese and I can only wish that it never will. The West, in fact, ignored its desperate pleas for help, otherwise, with even a modest military aid, China would not have been able to reach Lhasa through the high mountains. Perhaps the West had no interest to help because it recognised that the Tibetan people are strong in their faith and would not be easily tempted to succumb to their material vanities.

Being under Western yoke is far from ideal too, but the Western yoke is RELATIVELY lighter than the Chinese.

One can only be absolutely free once they stop identifying with their body, then whatever enemies do to one's body cannot conquer or even interfere with their spirit.

Many Tibetan people have set their body on fire to escape Chinese tyranny. I am yet to see Westerners who do the same to escape Western tyranny.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 16 August 2019 8:45:31 AM
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Yuyutsu,
European/Western societies too were at times at a stage as Tibet is. In fact Europe is at the beginning of yet another one such upheavals.
Posted by individual, Saturday, 17 August 2019 9:23:18 PM
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Dear Individual,

I could be wrong, or it could have been so in pre-historical times, before we had any written records, but as far as I can tell, European/Western societies were never as spiritually evolved as the Tibetan people.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 18 August 2019 12:46:05 AM
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Yuyutsu,
Spiritually evolved ? Don't you mean superstitious to a high degree ? Look at the spirituality of the Mayans, Egyptians, Greeks, in fact all so-called spiritualistic societies we can think of have all had one thing in common, exploitation/severe slavery of their people. It was their people who toiled till death & suffered indescribebly on that dreadful journey just so some "Spiritual Crackpots" could live in the utmost luxury whilst their slaves existed in the utmost misery. Spirituality ? Thanks but no thanks ! Give me decency any day ! Especially, when money rears it's ugly head, Spirituality ALWAYS comes second. Just like in Tibet !
Posted by individual, Sunday, 18 August 2019 6:54:50 AM
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Dear Individual,

Are you confusing spiritual with spiritualistic? The latter is a terrible unwholesome and dangerous practice to do with spirits of the dead, then let us stay away from it and if indeed the Mayans, Egyptians and Greeks, were involved with it then they were not spiritual.

Exploitation and slavery is most common in China, including sexual slavery. It is there where money raises its ugliest head. Party membership is passed by inheritance and the rich party-members live in all luxury and can do as they please to the poor others.

I met a young Chinese tourist in her early twenties. Since her father was high-ranking in the party, she was gifted a medium-sized business with a large building and some 30 employees which allowed her to travel the world without having to work. She couldn't tell who Marx was (nor Buddha, despite claiming to be a Buddhist) and when I asked her "what is communism?" she answered: "being born in the right family, my father is a communist, so so am I".

So if you are looking for decency, you will not find it China.

In Tibet, spirituality always came first, not money.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 19 August 2019 2:59:54 PM
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In Tibet, spirituality always came first, not money.
Yuyutsu,
Why the Dalai Lama doesn't reside there ? I have never seen any pictures of spiritual people earning their keep, they expect others to feed them in return for what exactly ? Not just in Tibet, everywhere !
Posted by individual, Monday, 19 August 2019 5:01:34 PM
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