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Disinviting Jordan Peterson: the Faculty of Divinity, Cambridge and approved ideas : Comments

By Binoy Kampmark, published 25/3/2019

It should be very clear that meaningless terms such as diversity and inclusiveness do very little to the content of actual intellectual conversation.

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We should not have to put up with people who reduce
interaction to tedious name calling simply because our opinions
differ from theirs. This is after all just an opinion forum
and each of us is entitled to have our different opinions.
It is corrosive no matter how tough you may be to log on and
see that torrent of false assumptions. It saps your
energy - what's the point.

That's why posters like Canem Malum are valued. To my knowledge
this man has not stooped to personal insults ever. Our opinions
often differ - but I appreciate his civility.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 1 April 2019 9:39:59 AM
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Foxy,

I congratulate you on watching the Newman interview. However, the logic of Peterson's argument seems to have eluded you.

That even in the Scandinavian countries where every occupation is equally open to all genders, the reality is that women overwhelmingly tend to choose occupations that pay less, and tend to work shorter hours. The call for equality by today's feminists is not based on equality of opportunity, but of equality of outcome. Where is the call for a 50% female representation in bricklaying?

Secondly, don't disagree that the evolutionary tendency towards cooperation is a strong base for the success of humankind, but that in no way obviates the biological imperative for hierarchies.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 1 April 2019 10:17:10 AM
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SM,

I don't need your Congratulations for watching the interview.
Nor am I deluded in what I saw just because it does not
agree with your take.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/hot-thought-201802/jordan-peterson-s-flimsy-philosophy-life
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 1 April 2019 12:11:24 PM
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cont'd ...

Sorry for the typo - here's the link again:

http://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/hot-thought/201802/jordan-peterson-s-flimsy-philosophy-life
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 1 April 2019 1:07:13 PM
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Foxy,

Firstly, I was congratulating you on diverting from your usual diet of left wing blogs,

Secondly I think you misplaced your glasses. I said that JP's logic has eluded you, not that you are deluded.

Finally, try this thought experiment. Take a group of 100 people of equal skills, 50 take jobs that are less pleasant but pay well, and 50 take lower paying, but more satisfying.

The new wave feminists effectively argue that the wages of the lower paid workers should be increased to equal those of the higher paid.

Plumbers generally earn more than nurses and there is nothing stopping women becoming plumbers or men nurses.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 1 April 2019 1:36:09 PM
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SM,

The reality is that there are gender pay gaps.
We're not talking about
lower paid professions and higher paid professions.
What we're talking about is people in the same
professions getting less pay for doing the same
work simply because of their gender. Men earning more
than women in the same profession.

Professions like:

1) Physicians and surgeons.
2) Human Resources Managers.
3) Top Executives.
4) Real Estate brokers and sales agents.
5) Retail salespersons.
6) Financial Managers.
7) Personal financial advisers.
8) Bar tenders.
9) Female truck drivers.
10) Securities, commodities, and financial service agents.

And the list goes on.

What is being argued is equal pay for equal work.
Females should be getting paid the same as their
male counterparts for doing the same job.
They're not.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 1 April 2019 10:03:41 PM
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