Canem Malum,

I watched the whole Newman/Peterson interview.
Several times in fact. I thought it was a poor
interview. A missed opportunity. Which was a
shame because it meant that people did not get
to hear what Peterson says in his book.

In the pay-gap segment Newman tried to join
the dots rather than getting to the heart of
the issue such as the chicken/egg nature of female
dominated jobs being paid less. It was frustrating
to see his "hierarchy is biological" argument go
unchallenged as there is clear evidence that
egalitarianism is a evolutionary adaption that
benefited us in sustenance societies.

His blindness to existing gender roles which
decry equality of outcomes as only possible through
ïmmense social pressure amd tyranny"- an easy avenue
for exploration and criticism - was completely
missed in pursuit of a trap to crudely demonise
Peterson.

Still - to be a citizen is to engage and the Newman -
Peterson interview is a model of that engagement.
To quote the great African American scholar -
Henry Louis Gates:
Let them talk.

I don't like people who reduce human inter-action to tedious
name-calling.

It's good that you have seen the interview. And have made the effort to analyse it.

I don't think Jordan Peterson is blind to existing gender roles- he just says that they are related to things other than prejudice. He goes into some detail on this. As to whether they are caused as you indicate by "social pressure and tyranny" is up for debate and perhaps yet to be proven in evidence. I suspect as is true for animals that human genders are adapted for different roles in the group structure.

Canem Malum,

I like reading your posts.

Foxy- I think I misread some of your previous reply but my answer remains pretty much the same.

Canem Malum,

I appreciate that.

Good, well thought out posts, Caneb Malum. (good Aussie name)

Lefties like Foxy once obsessed about equality. But with the granting of equality, women and certain dysfunctional minorities did not obtain equality of outcomes.

Unable to fathom or even admit that woman and men are different, or that races and ethnicities are different, they then had to find another more sinister explanation. They settled on discrimination, oppression and white privilege.

Real intellectuals like Peterson (as opposed to pseudo intellectuals like artz graduate lefties) calmly and rationally explain why this is simply not so. Jordan is a top notch psychologist and he explains in ways that most people can understand. As such, he is having a real positive effect on educated lefties who can relate to his explanations, and re consider their own inculcated, programmed beliefs.