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Disinviting Jordan Peterson: the Faculty of Divinity, Cambridge and approved ideas : Comments

By Binoy Kampmark, published 25/3/2019

It should be very clear that meaningless terms such as diversity and inclusiveness do very little to the content of actual intellectual conversation.

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Foxy,

Jordan Peterson never expressed any issue with the concept of equal pay for equal work, in fact he actively espouses it.

Now that we have dispensed with 90% of the so called wage gap let's have a look at the like for like jobs.

In most lower to middle rank jobs the pay rate is identical. However, statistically men work 10% more thus gaining overtime and or promotions.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 8:07:27 AM
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SM,

Jordan Peterson stated that the gender pay gap has
nothing to do with discrimination - but is due to the
innate biological differences between the sexes.
That more agreeable people get paid less.
Which I found to be rather simplistic.

However be that as it may - the fact remains that in
this country according to the Australian Government's -
WGEA (Asutralian Gender Pay Gap Agency) - Australia's
full time gender pay gap is 14.1%.
Women earn on average $239.80 per week less than men.

$1,455.80 - full time av. weekly earnings of women.
$1,695.60 full time av. weekly earning of men.

The gender pay gap by state and territory -
lowest - Victoria - 9.3%

Highest - WA - 23.1%

Gender pay gap by Industry -
Lowest 5.1% - Public Administration and Safety
Highest - 26.9% Financial and Ins. Services.

I shan't be responding to you any further.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 10:00:27 AM
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Foxy,

JP did not say that the pay gap had nothing to do with discrimination, what he said that it was one small factor amongst many.

That the full time wage gap is 14% on average again does not take in hours worked or job type. It is no surprise that the wage gap is the highest in WA. The prevalence of highly paid FIFO jobs that women eschew is almost certainly a major factor.

So to close the wage gap, get more of them into mining and less pushing paper in Victoria
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 1:12:16 PM
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SM,

I know what JP stated.
He's stated it many times.

ABS and WGEA data both show a gender pay gap favouring full-time working men over full-time working women in every industry
and occupational category in Australia.

I'm done.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 1:30:13 PM
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Foxy,

I watched the senate presentation of that data of the gender earnings gap. When asked whether the figures for the earnings included were based on an hourly rate, the answer was simply that the figures were based on gross take home pay over the year, and factors such as extra time or unpaid leave were not considered.
So in reality the wage gap figures presented have a hole that you could drive a car through.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 4 April 2019 8:04:26 AM
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Posted by LEGO, Monday, 1 April 2019 7:07:42 AM- Good, well thought out posts, Caneb Malum. (good Aussie name)

Answer- Sorry for taking so long to reply. Thanks for your feedback LEGO. Most of what I said was just paraphrasing Jordan Peterson. I also agree with your comments here. Hopefully we can learn from each other- though there are some from who there are fewer lessons. Similar to Jordan Peterson I find going back to nature as a powerful way of establishing a baseline to human behavior. Many groups try to present themselves as spokespeople for certain groups- this is a way of making it appear that your group has a much wider reach than it actually does. It's a "fake it till you make it" strategy. But all groups can use these strategies- it's a toolkit- some are just better at it than others. It's difficult though when the expertise of the nations universities (such as the psychologists) are put to the traitorous purpose of destroying the nation. There seems to be threads of socialist culture pervading certain professions and especially blue stone universities- this seems to be toxic to free thought and objectivity. There are some very brave hero's at Blue Stone Universities that make comments on occasion
Posted by Canem Malum, Thursday, 4 April 2019 9:28:45 PM
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