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Disinviting Jordan Peterson: the Faculty of Divinity, Cambridge and approved ideas : Comments

By Binoy Kampmark, published 25/3/2019

It should be very clear that meaningless terms such as diversity and inclusiveness do very little to the content of actual intellectual conversation.

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'One would have thought that most of the Alt-Right would be pulling their heads in after the Christchurch massacre of worshippers at prayer!? '

You mean the eco facist who was convinced that the planet is overpopulated and saw communist China as the best Government. And you have the audacity to accuse me of a mindset Alan. One day truth might matter to you. It certainly does not seem to at this time.
Posted by runner, Monday, 25 March 2019 5:12:13 PM
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Duck,

Peterson would agree with you, you don't have to be a Christian to feel some admiration for some Christian principles. I was just listening to a chorale by the British composer Vaughan Williams, with a narrator citing straight from the bible - Williams was not a believer, a pacifist and more on the Left than Right, but wrote some exquisite music based on Biblical texts, a Masque for Job, for example.

I have no trouble, as a non-believer, with tracing many of my core beliefs (such as I have any, some would say) to aspects of Christian principles - the parable (story, tale, hypothesis) of the Good Samaritan, for example. The sacrifice made by Tamar always moves me. Job's defiance of God, in God's gamble with Satan about who Job loved most, etc., inspires me (why the hell Job's story is in the Bible baffles me, God doesn't come out of it with any glory, merely as a big-shot bully, which most of us would be familiar with in the worst jobs we've ever had).

It's important that people have some moral foundations, and if mine relate indirectly to some aspects of Christianity, that's fine with me. I also find a few aspects of Islam quite admirable, and of course in Buddhism as well.

But you can call me alt-Right if you like, I don't accept that description. The question is: do YOU have any moral principles, and where do they originate ?

Cheers,

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Monday, 25 March 2019 5:13:11 PM
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Some weeks ago I listened to (watched) the discussion between Roger Scruton and Jordan Peterson sponsored by the Cambridge Platonist Society. It is titled Apprehending the Transcendent.
Some comments.

They were introduced as two of the foremost intellectuals of our age, which plain and simply just ain't true, and is indicative of the Spiritual, cultural and intellectual poverty of the Western world in this time and place.

The discussion was incredibly boring - I turned it off after about twenty minutes.

There was no indication that they had any real notion of, let alone experience of The Transcendental Reality in which all of this is spontaneously arising.
Posted by Daffy Duck, Monday, 25 March 2019 5:59:14 PM
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"We do not need folk with Alt-Right views disseminating them at our universities."

Given the article was specifically about Jordan Peterson perhaps you would care to enlighten us to some examples of his views he specifically shares with the alt-right that are not just a case that there are places where the alt-right agrees with much of the centre.

BTW how do you feel about folk with far left views disseminating them at our universities?

I'm not too bothered if the far left have a chance to put their case, very bothered if it is done in a way that excludes any serious challenge to those views.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Monday, 25 March 2019 8:09:32 PM
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You want an intelligent panel discussion with speakers who hold "humanitarian" views, Aiden B? Well, it already exists. It is called "Q&A" on the Australian Brainwashing Corporation, and it is exactly what you want. "Q&A's" idea of a "balanced" discussion is to have a right wing speaker like Mark Steyn, being shouted down by a nominally left wing speaker, a moderately left wing speaker, an extreme left wing speaker, and an absolutely crazy socialist who even Joseph Stalin and Hitler would look askance at.

It is why the ABC is losing intelligent viewers. Conservatism is the new punk. Leftists are the new moral puritans looking down on their deplorable inferiors and telling every body else how we must live.

Naturally, this does not go down too well with most of the population and the Left is starting to figure that out. So there is a need for political censorship to shut up right wing speakers like Milo, who attract the very non conformist young people that your side pretends to represent. The funny thing is, it was once the left who were the champions of free speech against the policies of the right. But now that the Left is the establishment, it need to do what it once claimed was absolutely evil to protect it's failing ideology from well deserved criticism.

When you have to resort to political censorship, your ideology is bankrupt. But I understand how uncomfortable your position is. With Europeans finally waking up to the real dangers of Islamic immigration (somewhat belatedly), your side desperately needs to stop free speech. Because criticizing Muslims and their religion in western countries will be certain to ignite a violent backlash from Muslims. Because you know, and I know, Muslims see nothing wrong at all with defending their religion with extreme violence.

And you know that won't be a good look for your beloved utopian ideal of multiculturalism. So your only alternative is to shut people up.

And you regard yourself as a progressive liberal?
Posted by LEGO, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 2:50:53 AM
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Alan B,

Jordan Peterson is by no means alt right, he has never been racist, homophobic, sexist or any other form of bigotry
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 1:24:44 PM
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