To Foxy,

You said on Tuesday, 11 December 2018 9:51:04 PM

<<Yes, religious schools have a lot to answer.
As not only the victims of child sexual abuse
can testify but all the people who are leaving
and have left the institutions in droves.
Hatred, brainwashing,
judgement of others, discrimination, no longer
works in this day and age. People expect better.
Just as they do of their politicians.>>

Based on this comment I have a question for you or anyone else who has an answer.

Where are the examples of religous schools brainwashing their students (or religions brainwashing in general), and what is the distinction between that and teaching as a general rule? If brainwashing is putting an unsupported idea into students or people's head, then politics as a whole should be looked into much more for brainwashing then religion is for brainwashing.

None the less if there are examples of brainwashing, and these examples are real enough to stand against then we should stand against it. Regardless if it is from a religion, a college, or a political lobby. Not against going to college, going to church (or other place of worship), nor against being involved in politics. Just to stand against that example, that specific lobbyist, that school, program, or teacher, or that specific church or pastor.

I see too much philosophical arguments on brainwashing to support or harm certain arguments. But are there any examples of this or is that ignored or they not even there? (A lie for the sake of strengthing an argument)?

NNS,

Perhaps the following will help:

http://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-secular-life/201408/does-christianity-harm-children

ALTRAV,

You are arguing with yourself.

I answered Hasbeen's question to me.

runner,

Wrong is wrong no matter how you try to rationalise
your behaviour.

Foxy, you don't get to dismiss me simply because you don't want to admit that my proposition is a true account of the facts regarding the situation with the school and the teacher.
I reject your egoistical, self ingratiating, patronising response.
By the dismissive wave of your hand and associated irreverence, says more about you than you would like people to know.
If you are truly not the snob you have just demonstrated, I, and others are expecting an answer to my take on the question Hasbeen put to you.
If you want to be taken seriously, I would suggest a response or you will leave yourself open to being regarded as one who is afraid to be wrong, and so it is easier to mock and run than respond and lose.
Losing a point or getting a detail wrong is quite normal so do not feel badly about losing this one to Hasbeen, because he is right.
As for your link:
This guy is a moron.
He set his child up to rebuke Christianity, only because he is a an atheist pig.
If he TRULY wanted to teach his kid about Christianity, he should have sat her down or gotten someone well versed on the topic, to explain it to her.
What an idiot.
Foxy shame on you for selecting a moron and for even giving his diatribe any cred, let alone make it a link.
I'll bet the prick has never taken her to a 'house of horrors' at the circus or fair, because that is precisely what he just did.
He is an unfit father and if that's his level of parenting, I'd be the first one to rip that child out of that home.
What an evil ugly little man, then he has the gall to write about it as if he had just discovered the cure for cancer.
What he did was puerile and unforgivable, and I truly hope she NEVER forgives him.
She has not only been scarred for life, against religion, but scarred for life, in general.

ALTRAV,

What I posted to Not-Now-Soon, was in reply to his
question concerning examples of religious brainwashing.
I gave a link that showed what someone had experienced,
as he asked.
It had nothing to do with you.
You were under no obligation to read it.
Do try to have an intelligent discussion, and keep
emotion out of it. Rants are a turn off.
You remind me of a big gorilla in a zoo - beating his
chest because he doesn't get his way. Grow up!

NNS,

Here is another link that may be of interest.
It again is from what someone has experienced,
regarding religious brainwashing:

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/i-was-radicalised-at-my-catholic-school-thats-why-birminghams-squalid-religious-schools-frighten-me-a6778261.html

Foxy. That article isn't an example of religous brainwashing. It's an example of an atheist struggling to badly explain Christianity to his daughter, plus a short list of complaints of beliefs that he doesn't seem to understand. He even admits to how much Christianity has benifited some children instead of being a source of abuse.

What he said though that I see merit for is to be willing to discuss Christianity and it's merits or flaws openly. That said though the issues should be grounded by at least on live example of brainwashing or abuse. Otherwise is it just rally a flaw; or a misunderstood and exagegerated philosophy against the faith that person doesn't believe.

If you have an example or anyone else does of Christianity brainwashing anyone I'd like to see it. As far as I can tell no real distinction between education or brainwashing exists when comparing secular school programs and privite christian schools. Therefore the critism of brainwashing and indoctrination is holds no merit outside of select few examples of cult like movements from deranged individuals, not from Christian beliefs.