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Religious have no right to judgment on sexual orientation or gender identity : Comments

By Robin Banks, Anja Hilkemeijer and Rodney Croome, published 6/12/2018

This means, for example, that a Jewish school can turn away a teacher if they are Christian, but not just because they are gay, transgender, Aboriginal or in a wheelchair.

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ALTRAV - you responded - to Foxy

"Foxy, wrong again.
When 'sound reasoning' doesn't work, or any kind of reasoning, we are dealing with an 'unreasonable' person, by definition.
And so it is absolutely imperative to ensure that person is brought back into the realm of reason, by 'any' means.
When the 'softly-softly' approach does not work, one must resort to more aggressive measures to attempt to achieve their goal or mission.
How would we reconcile, if we gave up on something because it was too hard, on initial contact.
And so it is I am so driven, even pedantic, about conveying the truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God.
First and foremost you must stop suggesting these links that you believe will help you make your case.
For every link you come up with I can find ten contradicting them.
They are self serving and puerile.
I know you can do better.
And finally, let others win a point every now and then.
We love you for being warm and cuddly and accommodating, but when you 'argue', yes argue with us, it's not a good look.
How about trying to see the other guys view for a change, maybe even correct him by way of suggesting that possibly he meant something else, and actually describing what you believe he really meant.
Anyway, love you, as always, and you know what they say 'you don't want to hurt the ones you love'."

Do you "seriously" believe that was an appropriate response to "FOXY" - a strong and assertive person with own views and thoughts.

I don't know FOXY personally - but had conversations via online in the past, both on supporting and opposing opinions, however I would NEVER post a comment as above to any "family" online member.
Posted by SAINTS, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 9:44:59 PM
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Saints, I'm not quite sure of your position regarding your last posting, re; my response to Foxy's response.
Saint, I am a reasonable person who tolerates a lot.
Unfortunately I do not have the linguistic skills, I so dearly desire.
I also cannot stand virtue signalling or virtue shaming or any form of emotional rubbish in a debate or discussion.
There are those who push their agenda as if they represent the truth, for which I am continually attacked, yet when someone makes a comment, essentially debunking or questioning the validity of their comment, they take the moral high ground and effectively, by today's standards, assault you by ignoring tour comment and responding with further affirmation of their stance on the topic.
Saint this is the attitude of an arrogant, selfish person suffering from many social inconsistencies and short comings.
It is sickening to witness when some commentors keep telling each other how wonderful they are.
This is NOT a dating site, and there should never be such language or emotions expressed on these sites.
I do not tolerate unreasonable people.
If we are prepared to look into someones link then I believe it is a matter of course,respect and good manners for them to respond equally.
I have explained myself and my demeanor to the forum, so I believe I have been 'up front and open' with everyone.
They know I will not wear fools.
I speak the truth, not BS PC.
I do not care for the absurd stance to not offend.
If during the course of a conversation, someone is offended, it is of their doing, they can correct me if I am wrong or, if I am right they can suck it up and move on.
Anyway, Saint, if someone feels the need to offend another, it is his right and therefore quite the norm to do so.
Some people have an un-natural, un-healthy, naive view on life, that everything is rosey, this is dangerous.
Posted by ALTRAV, Thursday, 20 December 2018 1:20:56 AM
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//There are other denominations beyond Catholicism, and they ain't all as tolerant.//

Then deal with them on a case by case basis.
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Thursday, 20 December 2018 7:57:28 AM
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