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Religious have no right to judgment on sexual orientation or gender identity : Comments

By Robin Banks, Anja Hilkemeijer and Rodney Croome, published 6/12/2018

This means, for example, that a Jewish school can turn away a teacher if they are Christian, but not just because they are gay, transgender, Aboriginal or in a wheelchair.

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ALTRAV,

A couple of corrections:

1) I did not argue that Islamic schools accept gays.
2) I did not "gloss over" anything. Or ignored
anything.

What I did do was answer Hasbeen's specific question:
"Foxy do you really think you would find a homosexual
teaching in a Muslim school?"

The answer was - yes. Loud and clear.

You stated that the Quran was not relevant, practiced, or
acceptable to today's standards. And the Bible is?
How well do you know either? And you agree with what our
resident self-proclaimed Christian runner posts -
He's a good example of Christianity is he?

runner,

With people like you at the helm - no wonder the churches
are empty. I shall pray for you. (After all Christmas is
just around the corner).
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 10:08:15 PM
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'runner,

With people like you at the helm - no wonder the churches
are empty. I shall pray for you. (After all Christmas is
just around the corner).'

cheap lazy insults Foxy!
Posted by runner, Thursday, 13 December 2018 1:47:31 PM
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runner,

No, not insults. Facts.

You, on this forum set the example with
cheap lazy insults all in the name of
religion.
Shame on you!
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 13 December 2018 1:53:09 PM
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runner,

Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what
judgement ye judge ye shall be judged: and
with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured
to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote
that is in they brother's eye, but considered not
the beam that is in thine own eye?

(Sermon on the Mount. Matthew, Chapter 7, 1-5)
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 13 December 2018 2:09:49 PM
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Foxy, to counter your corrections;
You needed not argue if 'Islamic schools accepted gays' or not, because by their own admission they have.
Although I don't think it happened with open arms.
It may have been discovered later and possibly as you put it, don't ask, don't tell, would have come into play.
When the teacher was first accepted, it would not have been known to the school, otherwise they absolutely should not have hired her, as it would put the school in an untenable situation, and clearly in direct contrast/conflict with the teachings of the Koran.
I think it was discovered later and because by that stage there was now a rapport between the principal and the teacher, it was left alone, to be dealt with if and when it ever became known.
And that is the real reason why they sought anonymity for the teacher and the school.
Surely even you can imagine the outcry and the enormous furore that would be bestowed upon the school, it's principal and let's not even think about what would happen to the teacher, if this information became known to the Muslim public/parents.
The stupidity of journo's, I can only imagine what ensued following the airing of that SBS segment.
So what Hasbeen meant was, 'can you see a queer being hired and therefore teaching in an Islamic school?
The correct answer NO!
Secondly, you DID 'gloss over' the fact that even though there was a queer working at this Islamic school, you 'glossed over' the fact that they needed to hide that fact from EVERYONE, as it would not be well received by those who ultimately run the school.
Foxy, it is in clear violation of the schools teachings.
Are you calling everyone involved, including the Islamic school board or governors, liars and hypocrites?
I'd say, Hasbeen needn't have asked the question, even I knew the answer, and I know you did too, Foxy.
I don't know why you bother, some things out there will never change, no matter how many times you keep saying they will or have.
Posted by ALTRAV, Thursday, 13 December 2018 6:17:03 PM
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You, on this forum set the example with
cheap lazy insults all in the name of
religion.
Shame on yo

Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what
judgement ye judge ye shall be judged: and
with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured
to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote
that is in they brother's eye, but considered not
the beam that is in thine own eye? set the example with
cheap lazy insults all in the name of
religion.
Shame on you!

Oh if you were not so blind Foxy.

'
Posted by runner, Thursday, 13 December 2018 10:24:42 PM
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