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Why Sco-Mo has got it wrong on Muslim leaders : Comments

By Kuranda Seyit, published 15/11/2018

Firstly, 'extremist' and 'Islam' are two diametrically opposed concepts. To conflate these terms is an affront to the great world faith of Islam.

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This article matches a reality I'm familiar with.

I say it again, its a low act picking off Muslim women in a shopping centre, for public humiliation.
Obviously Morrison is not in touch with this reality, and how his lack of support for the Muslim community, is highlighted by stoking anti Muslim sentimen in our communities.
Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 15 November 2018 7:20:55 PM
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If Muslim leaders spoke out against the harms made by extreemists, then that would go a long way to show them actually making an effort as is described in the article. If they went further and said they have issues to work with and to fix, that would be better.

Instead what we have are leaders who complain that they are included in the description of terrorists and extreemists. And we have Islamic terrorists and extremists.

If the Islamic presence was felt for the good it contributed instead of feared for the death it's caused then it would be a different sitution.

I feel sorry for Muslims that I've met that were good people as far as I could tell. Because as far as I can tell they could be the miniorities in Islam, or they could be the regular kind of Muslim. But their religous instutions have been silent too long. Or worse encouraged and celibrated when harm was done to critics of Islam, and reculent to let police do their jobs in Muslim communities. Those that are Muslim and good people haven't a leg to stand on, because of the harms done by fellow Muslims and the silence of the Muslim community to fix these horrors. It's worth feeling sorry for when they recieve the consquences that should be shared by the whole Muslim community and dealt with by the Muslim leaders.

Regardless, more should be done by the Muslim community. Instead of complaining that people are getting fed up with Islamic extremism, Islamic terrorism, and general unrest among Muslim communities, instead of complaining they should do something to clean up the mess.

Even just trying to clean it up and acknowledging the problems would go a long way, and help any hostility towards Muslims dissipate.
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Friday, 16 November 2018 12:51:46 AM
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NNS

And how the Italians are dealing with the mafia connections, could we add that in. And how are the Chinese community are dealing with the criminal triad gangs, and their destructive drug importations in to this country?

This is the new world of multiculturalism, it's a fail on too many levels!
Posted by diver dan, Friday, 16 November 2018 7:51:21 AM
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A very transparent smoke screen penned by Kuranda Sayit, written as usual, it the style of outraged innocence. If all the facts are against you, try emotionalism and outrage. You might fool somebody.

The only thing that PM Scott Morrison got wrong was to claim that terrorism was a product of "extreme Islam." That is exactly like saying that the holocaust genocide was only a product of "extreme" Nazism

Islamic terrorism is not caused by "extreme Islam". It is caused by just "Islam." The jihadis trying to gain entrance to heaven by murdering infidels are doing exactly what the Koran and their prophet has instructed them to do, and Kuranda Sayit knows it. His puff piece was written to pull the wool over the socialist globalists who just do not want to know that Islam is dangerous. Their entire groupthink ideology depends upon believing that all people and cultures are equal.

As for claiming that those wonderful imams are just doing their best to prevent terrorism, that is exactly like saying that der Fuhrer was doing his best to prevent the persecution of Jews. Anything bad that happened to the Jews was all was all done behind Hitler's back. The mullahs are doing their best Sargent Schultz impersonations from Hogan's Heroes. . "Terrorism? I see nothing, I hear nothing."

The imams and the mullahs are the problem. They are the only beneficiaries of this dangerous "religion" which seeks world domination through violence. It is kind of funny how they are squirming every time that somebody points out the very Koranic texts that directly advocate terrorism. For 1600 years nobody ever dared to challenged these evil men. But in the western world they now inhabit they have to justify and explain their terrorism advocating religious texts.

Naturally, all they can do is bluster or retreat into silence. They need lackeys like Kuranda Sayit to try and come up with some sort of argument to pretend that islam is a "religion" of peace, instead of what it really is, an ideology of violence, imperial conquest, superstition, and misogyny.
Posted by LEGO, Friday, 16 November 2018 6:39:02 PM
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Sadly , your true words are repeated by the Christian culture of Hitler's Europeans. Medieval Islam and Medieval Church were a good match . An Indian friend asked whether eating meat instead of chick peas and lentils made both religions attack vegetarian India. Canberra ordered young men to kill Vietnamese or jailed them for refusing. Now the same Vietcong are allies . Scomo would do it again, to commies , Muslims or Christians.
Posted by nicknamenick, Friday, 16 November 2018 6:59:56 PM
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Kuranda,

<< … "Extremist" and "Islam" are two diametrically opposed concepts. To conflate these terms is an affront to the great world faith of Islam, which teaches peace and compassion towards our fellow human beings.>>

So Islam's extremist reputation is wrong because Islam teaches peace and compassion towards people? Is that right?

The Qur’an states:

Qur'an 5:33 [Yusuf Ali translation], ‘The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides….

So, those who wage war against Allah suffer execution, crucifixion, cutting off hands and feet. That’s a strange way to describe 'peace and compassion'.

Qur'an 8:12 [Yusuf Ali], ‘Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): “I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them’.

So Islamic 'peace and compassion' towards unbelievers is to have heads and finger tips smitten, i.e. cut off.

Qur'an 8:39 [Yusuf Ali], ‘Fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah altogether and everywhere; but if they cease, verily Allah doth see all that they do’.

Qur'an 47:35 [Yusuf Ali], ‘Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost: for Allah is with you, and will never put you in loss for your (good) deeds’.

Now try convincing me that at its core, Islam is a religion of peace and compassion.

The Qur'an disproves the thesis of your article.

What happened on September 11 2001 in the USA and on 13 November 2015 in Paris are at the core of Muhammad’s requirements for Muslims who are true to their faith - slaughter.
Posted by OzSpen, Friday, 16 November 2018 8:54:20 PM
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