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The knowledge of good and evil : Comments

By Peter Sellick, published 13/11/2018

'When their relationship with God was disturbed, their mutual relationship was also disturbed; everything that belongs together disintegrated...'

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Dear Dan,

I cannot comment on this speculation of fallen angels which is based on the book of Enoch that is not even in the bible and the verse about the "sons of God" (Genesis 6:2): modern research indicates that this term was used to denote high-class/royal/noble people, rather than some sort of angels.

If one was to meet Hitler on a sunny afternoon at a tea party, then their mind would likely be affected by Hitler's evil mind, whether they be aware of it or otherwise, therefore: "Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful" [Psalms 1:1]. Good company is the gateway to spiritual advancement.

Even when our body is in a vegetative state, our mind can still be receptive and while the evil within it is not manifesting at the moment, it still lurks in there.

Now to the extent that we speak of creation literally, David is correct: if God created good than He also created evil. However, "creation" is a dualistic approximation - as if God and His creation are separate. Describing this Creator/created relationship between God and men is a good idea, a useful tool to make men thankful and encourages devotion, yet it is factually inaccurate: nothing was in fact ever created because all there is is God. There could never possibly be anything else, including this which seems to be good and that which seems to be evil - All is God!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 3:08:40 PM
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1. Evil?

Take the High Church for example.

Where from priests to their bosses accrue Morality Credits.

Then they can, almost always above the law, expend said credits on little children.

http://theconversation.com/why-its-so-hard-to-hold-priests-accountable-for-sex-abuse-101947

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2. Excommunication?

But there is "Threat of Excommunication" you say.

Threat of Excommunication is levelled against those priests in Confessional who would do their civil duty by telling Police of other priests interferring with little children.

Meanwhile the priests who actually interfer with little children are not Excommunicated...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_excommunicated_by_the_Catholic_Church
Posted by plantagenet, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 3:11:52 PM
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any member or supporter of planned parenthood is equivalent to Hitler. They both used the same tactics in dehumanising and murdering.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 3:25:23 PM
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Oh so suddenly you are a believer David f
runner,
Stop twisting words. Nowhere did he say he was a believer. You're the hypocritical one here because you're always dragging out psalms & verses when it supports your arguments that you can't prove.
I can't say if there is or isn't a God. If there is he's definitely not at all how religion portrays him.
I'd say the religous would incurr more of his wrath than the genuine humans who don't subscribe to the hypocisy that is religion.
Posted by individual, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 3:56:41 PM
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"if God created good than He also created evil. "
Or is that "free will"? Did Adam choose to eat the 1 fruit or did God choose? Surely God's intent was to limit human inhumanity.

Jesus had the choices when Satan gave him the option ( Matt 4.8) and Jesus quoted God and refused, as Adam had been able to do.
Posted by nicknamenick, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 4:01:44 PM
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really Individual. So you don't see the irony of continually criticising and calling the bible a fairytale and then using it in defense of your arguement. I would hardly call that twisting words.

'I can't say if there is or isn't a God. If there is he's definitely not at all how religion portrays him.'

fair enough however the claims of who Jesus said He was, man's corrupt nature, what He achieved and His resurection are pretty simple for even the uneducated. The bible actually says man is without excuse and I would believe that above lies.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 4:14:57 PM
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