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The knowledge of good and evil : Comments

By Peter Sellick, published 13/11/2018

'When their relationship with God was disturbed, their mutual relationship was also disturbed; everything that belongs together disintegrated...'

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This concept (probably from Persian origins) as if God has rivals, like evil angels who want to take His place, is not only ridiculous but also a mockery of God.

It portrays a god that is limited, a god who is only one entity among many. Yes, this god is the strongest among them and he eventually prevails and defeats his evil enemies, but only with some effort and cunning.

- This is not God, this is a caricature!

Nothing can logically exist outside of God - it is meaningless gibberish to speak of anything outside God and if a book promotes such stupid ideas then it is well and good that some people had the sense to exclude it from the bible.

There is no such entity as "evil" - evil is simply the attribute of darkness and ignorance, the absence of light and knowledge, particularly the knowledge that we are all one in God, so if you hurt another then in fact you are hurting yourself!

Yes there are such people whom we call evil, but it is superstitious to assume that some evil entity entered them - all it means is that due to their ignorance they seek pleasure/relief at the expense of others, oblivious to the fact that by doing so they only hurt themselves.

There is never a total absence of light and truth, but we start off with only limited truths and our journey takes us to increasingly greater truths and ultimately to the eternal absolute Truth in the light of God.

We pray to God (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavamana_Mantra):
"Lead me from falsehood to truth, from darkness to light, from death to immortality"
Posted by Yuyutsu, Thursday, 15 November 2018 7:24:43 PM
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Thank you nnn, I like that, *...Reverend His Grace Daniel Diver LOL..* and Pauline Hanson likes it too. Can you suggest an angelic name for her that suits?

Yuyutsu

I think the concept of a God sharing heaven with his angles is hardly confined to the book of Enoch.

Most things in the Bible are a way-out concept in a modern world such as this.

Your problem with Enoch seems to stem from your imagined threat to God.
God does have rivals of his own making. Akin to wayward children to parents on earth. Nothing at all odd about that concept.
And fallen angles is a concept not unique to the book of Enoch.

What is unique to Enoch, is the specifics of the fallen angles, and the introduction of the watchers.

To dismiss it as inconsistent lacks an understanding of the whole of the Bible, the whole of it is full of inconsistencies. It's why preaching from it is such a slippery experience.

So I conclude you just plain old fashioned don't like it. And strangely you back up with the Catholic Church on this one. A highly suspect operation, especially five hundred years ago!
Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 15 November 2018 9:53:19 PM
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The watchers come in and disappear . But some fallen Angles return.
The return of the lapsed Anglican - Sydney Anglicans
https://sydneyanglicans.net/blogs/modernministry/the-return-of-the-lapsed-anglican
Posted by nicknamenick, Friday, 16 November 2018 5:57:08 AM
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Church attendance declines, the Pastor whines
(While on the other side),
Stakeholders lament, cries the guardian news,
Authorities count the shoes and ignore the views
The old King carries the cross.
Posted by diver dan, Friday, 16 November 2018 7:25:06 AM
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" Pentecostal pastor says Scott Morrison’s leadership 'a miracle of God’ –
Pentecostal leaders have warned their congregation that “darkness” will spread across Australia if Scott Morrison does not win the next election. ,, so God intervened to ensure he beat the home affairs minister, Peter Dutton, in the Liberal leadership spill.

Thompson, who says he can interpret dreams and that supernatural signs and manifestations accompany his ministry, said he’d received a message from God that Morrison and the Coalition must win the election. “The Lord woke me up at 4.30am this morning,” Thompson told the Hope City Church congregation on Sunday, . “Just as Scott has come to the fore, unexpected Lord, you’ve kept him hidden for a time such as this,” Beale said.

Morrison is Australia’s first Pentecostal prime minister."

Enoch Powell in UK fell from grace and gets no wake-up calls.
Posted by nicknamenick, Friday, 16 November 2018 8:47:33 AM
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St Andrew's church in Ukraine was fire-bombed. “We're seeing that Moscow’s henchmen are trying through such 'transparent hints' to 'scare off' representatives of the Ecumenical Patriarch, to whom St. Andrew’s church is being transferred,” Zorya said.. . On November 3, Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew I thanked Poroshenko for the transfer of the church's building to the Ecumenical Patriarchate."

Holy Mother Russia and all angels strike back at the evil tenth of fallen Ukrainians who worship in sin and bad knowledge of uncivilised thermonuclear hell.
Posted by nicknamenick, Friday, 16 November 2018 10:18:02 AM
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