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The knowledge of good and evil : Comments

By Peter Sellick, published 13/11/2018

'When their relationship with God was disturbed, their mutual relationship was also disturbed; everything that belongs together disintegrated...'

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Ah runner, as usual here to sit in judgement on everyone else and decide on which commentary is cosha and which isn't.

Must be such a comfort to know with such absolute certainty, that you are always right as you stand in God's place of judgement on all your fellow humans and decide what's sin/sinful and what is not.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 13 November 2018 6:39:11 PM
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runner,
There you go again saying things that aren't true. I didn't criticise the Bible, I pointed out the hypocrisy of religion.
The Bible is not religion nor is religion the Bible. The bible is supposedly the word of God. Religion isn't, religion is a man-made tool for the manipulators. religion is hypocrisy plus.
Posted by individual, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 7:12:18 PM
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//Where was Eden located? I don't know the exact location in the 21st century//

I do. It was in Bedford.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panacea_Society
Posted by Toni Lavis, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 7:25:43 PM
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david f,

<<If God wanted humans to behave well why forbid them to eat of the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil? It is unfair to punish humans for doing wrong when they had not the knowledge of Good and Evil.>>

It is not unfair at all to warn children of the consequences if they misbehave. When the first human beings were gifted with free will (the power of alternative choice), God gave them the test and they failed.

<<It is a fairy tale like the story of Bluebeard who forbids his bride to go into a room knowing full well she will go into the room. The fairy tale was to set the scene for that which follows>>.

That is your presuppositional understanding imposed on the text. Don't you know the difference between the content of the creation of a fairy tale and that of an historical narrative? These are not the details of a fairy tale:

"A river watering the garden flowed from Eden; from there it was separated into four headwaters. The name of the first is the Pishon; it winds through the entire land of Havilah, where there is gold. (The gold of that land is good; aromatic resin[d] and onyx are also there.) The name of the second river is the Gihon; it winds through the entire land of Cush. The name of the third river is the Tigris; it runs along the east side of Ashur. And the fourth river is the Euphrates" (Genesis 2:10-14).

The Garden of Eden was historically located at the headwaters of rivers that were named.

The ancestry of Jesus Christ was traced back to Adam (Luke 3:23-38). We are not dealing with a fairy tale but with genealogical reality from Adam to Jesus. David, you are imposing your presumptions on the text to make the tree of the knowledge of good and evil part of a fairy story.
Posted by OzSpen, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 7:43:19 PM
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"they had not the knowledge of Good and Evil"
God asked Adam who blamed the woman. God asked Eve who blamed the serpent for deceiving her. She knew alright , she was being evil and accused Adam of harassment and indecent exposure which he denied , she asked for it the hussy in a public park frightening the horses.
Posted by nicknamenick, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 8:26:23 PM
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Jujutsu

The book of Enoch is an essential in the complete understanding of the fall of man since Adam.
The New Testament references quotes from it. The Quran quotes verses from Enoch, the Jews acknowledge it's importance, it was held in legitimate esteem in the early Christian church, until the Catholic Church removed it officially five hundred years ago.
Without the book of Enoch, the fall of man and its consequences are conflicting and incomplete.
I'd make a bet our Pete will be opposed to the idea of fallen angles interbreeding with humans and producing Nephlin giants. Of interbreeding with with animals, of Noah's rejection of these animal offspring. Etc. Of a pre-hell, of the ten percent of the evil spirits allowed to roam the world until the final judgment, (Christ's encounter with them re New Testament).
All this and more, is the true Christian message of the war between good and evil, and the fall of man.
Posted by diver dan, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 9:42:53 PM
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