To Banjo Peterson.

The stat you gave regarding teens who aborted and those who gave birth is a frightening figure. If it's true it shows an issue that is not being addressed by abortion. The real cause of pregnancies. A sex driven culture and the issue of unprotected sex among teens and young adults. Then just as frightening is that of those pregnancies, more of them are aborted then are kept. That's not a bragging number of a small figure of people who choose to abort and it's their choice. It's a horrific number of people choosing to kill off the next generation because they can't handle celibacy.

NNS,

Neither myself nor I am sure Banjo Paterson doubts
the author and what she says she went through.
We just don't know the full circumstances of her
particular case. And I'm sure that Both Banjo and myself
agree that young girls should have all the necessary
information and options explained to them so that they
understand the choices they have. Education is the key -
not only regarding abortion - but sex, pregnancy, and all
the issues involved.

To Foxy. Here's a thought to consider.

For a moment let's pretend your in a position to talk to and advise a young girl who is pregnant. What opinions would you suggest. What questions or solutions would you ask to help themselves? Please include any options other then abortion as well.

It's a hypothetical sitution, but play it out for me will you. I'd like to know with abortion what other options you'd give her.

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Dear Foxy,

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I see with pleasure that you are beginning to know me well. I confirm, if need be, that I endorse everything you have written in your recent post. Perhaps, when I’m old and grey and feel I need a proxy on this forum, you would be kind enough to continue to associate my pseudo with yours whenever you feel appropriate.

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Dear Not_Now.Soon,

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I’m afraid there’s not much we can do for Madeleine. She is actively campaigning for what is generally known as the Pro-Life movement, apparently convinced that women should not have the right to choose if they want to have a baby or not.

It seems to me that as she is unwilling to assume personal responsibility for her own abortion, she is promoting the idea that Pro-Choice means No-choice.

According to Madeleine, either you are Pro-Life and you have the baby or you are Pro-Choice and you have an abortion.

Believe that if you will. I don’t.

That said, I understand the emotional turmoil she must be going through at the thought that the first major decision she made on becoming an adult at the age of eighteen was to have an abortion. Personal responsibility for that must be pretty terrible to admit - especially to herself.

There’s not much more that I can say on that subject, so, if you don’t mind, I’ll now sign off.

But before I do, here is the link to the statistics I mentioned in my previous post :

http://teenagepregnancynatalie.weebly.com/facts-and-statistics.html

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Banjo

Please don’t make out that there is anything you want to do for Madeleine other than to judge and criticise her. It seems there cannot be a voice that challenges the narrative that abortion is safe for women.

You misrepresent her in claiming she is “convinced that women should not have the right to choose if they want a baby or not”.

All she was doing in her article was courageously telling her personal story as a warning to other women.

She was advocating that women with an unwanted pregnancy should have real choice (i.e., more than one option promoted), be provided with factual information about the development of the unborn child and the risks of the procedure, and be given real support to continue with the pregnancy, should they wish to do so.

This is informed consent, which is the last thing the so-called pro-choice lobby wants.

Evidence of this was a true pro-choice law introduced by a Liberal ACT Government in 1999 which required women seeking an abortion to be given a booklet produced by the ACT Health Department containing information on the development of the unborn child, the risks of the procedure, and contact details of counselling and support agencies. There was a 72 hour cooling-off period before an abortion could be performed.

Practically the first thing Labor did when it won back government in 2002 was to repeal this law, thus unmasking themselves as pro-abortion rather than pro-choice.

Madeleine is NOT “actively campaigning for the pro-life movement”. She courageously told of her personal experience at ONE rally against a new Queensland law which contained no protection for women, to warn that abortion is not as safe as pro-abortion advocates make out.

For evidence that abortion can harm the psychological health of women, which is a real risk they should be warned of, see www.realchoices.org.au. Also see an intriguing article entitled Women, Abortion and the Brain, about the experience of many feminists who make a rational decision in line with their values to terminate an inconvenient pregnancy, but who are blindsided with unexpected grief - https://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2010/09/1657/

Also, Banjo, in response to your previous posts, if you think that somehow the unborn child in the womb is not human, and therefore not worthy of protection, you are kidding yourself.

Any thinking person knows that the entity in a pregnant woman’s womb is not animal, mineral or vegetable, that it is in fact a new human being, even before its heart starts beating 21 days after conception. I should say he or she because sex is determined at conception.

Pretending that this is not a unique and irreplaceable human life is a lie that good people have to tell themselves, or believe, in order to justify the killing of their unborn children, their own “flesh and blood” (metaphorically speaking, because the unborn baby has different DNA and perhaps a different blood type to the mother).

Society hides what it does by calling it “termination of pregnancy” as if there was nothing inside the mother’s womb. Nature terminates pregnancies after 9 months. Abortion EX-terminates babies.

Banjo, you claimed in an earlier post that the unborn child in the womb is not technically a baby. But it all depends on whether the child is wanted or not. When a child is wanted, the excited mother describes the entity in her womb as a baby, not as an embryo or foetus.

It seems only wantedness confers value on unborn human life.

For the record, I am pro-life because I am pro-woman. I have met numerous women who have suffered from their abortions, and have read a lot of literature and studies on what is called post-abortion syndrome.

Although I believe that every human life deserves a lifetime, my main concern is the damage abortion does to the health of women, and the fact that there is a cover-up of these risks.

For an expose of this cover-up, watch the award-winning documentary Hush (with a pro-life producer and a pro-choice director), which interviews leading advocates on both sides of the debate, at http://hushfilm.com/

Women have the right to know, and not be coerced or pressured into what is a harmful life-changing decision