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Live exports : Comments

By David Leyonhjelm, published 18/9/2018

Our livestock export industry not only provides affordable protein to some of the world’s poorest people; it also provides Australians with 13,000 jobs.

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We saw all those sheep in disgusting conditions on TV, and it was all BS.

Now we need to know where the films/recordings were taken so that those responsible for this gross cruelty, in the name of producing a load of BS, can be prosecuted.
Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 10:30:27 PM
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Thanks David and well put.
Straight up valid points from ALTRAV as well.
Unfortunately with the vast majority of the population existing in the artificial environ of cities where natural dangers are removed and the basic necessities are just there thanks to pipes and wires, perceptions are very different to those of the few who actually work with nature outside the concrete terrarium.
Makes for a majority particularly susceptible to the emotional propaganda used by those bent on state control of the means of production. Like "environmentalism" and "safety" animal welfare's just another tactic.
To those of us who maintain livestock the animal liberationists claims are illogical but we're so relatively few.
We're so far down the road now to total state control over all action and property it's hard to imagine how we'll come out of it short of a financial/social disaster event
Posted by jamo, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 2:16:29 AM
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//We saw all those sheep in disgusting conditions on TV, and it was all BS.//

Wrong ruminant, Is Mise. I'm pretty sure it was all sheep sh!t.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 6:03:32 AM
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Toni,

Now that is perception (:- !!
Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 8:18:51 AM
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According to the Meat and Live Stock
Organisation - Australia employs 13,000 people across
rural and regional Australia supporting thousands of
farmers and families. The New Daily, 18/04/2018, tells
us that the industry is worth $1.8 billion which allows
the Australian economy to grow.

According to Australian Livestock Exports - if the live
stock industry is eliminated it would cost a gross cost of
$300 million to stock farms. It would only generate around
$100 million in extra revenue for the meat processing
sector.

The objections to live exports are mainly driven by the
treatment of the stock, which many consider to be cruel.
However, according to Animals Australia the industry
simply accepts these deaths as part of its business model.
In fact we're told that up to 2% of every consignment of sheep
and 1% of cattle can die at sea before a government
investigation is even triggered.

So what are the alternatives to live exports?
The New Daily tells us that - Australia could develop new
abattoirs to facilitate the processing of live stock.

Prof. of Animal Breeding and Genetics at the University of
Adelaide - Wayne Pritchard says that Australia has very high
processing costs due to labour costs, costs of utilities
such as power, and various other factors. We're told that
in 2014-2015 beef abattoirs were at capacity and many animals
needed to be moved off the farms due to drought. Not having
live exports as an option would lead to huge financial losses
and environmental degradation with stock being forced to
remain on farms.

Criticisms have also been made about the treatment of our
live stock by other nations. And the ethics involved.
We're told that it is difficult for the Australian Government
to regulate animal welfare due to their inability to
enforce laws beyond our nation.

Australia would need to improve their communication of an
appropriate standard of animal welfare with the other
countries that Australia sells its stocks to.

I really can't see Australia giving up its live exports
any time soon.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 12:19:48 PM
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Foxy, well said.
I and 13,000 others applaud you.
I am not a diplomat so I could not have put it as clearly and 'cleanly' as youv'e done.
I would like to know who is behind this massive push to bring Australia to it's knees.
It is happening, and at an alarming rate.
Just go back through the old news and see how many industries and thousands of people have been laid off.
It is what I would call, an epidemic.
To add to our woes, we are headed for another recession.
Not withstanding the seriousness and shear size of un-employed, it is only going to get worse.
There is a light at the end of the tunnel.
Western Australia is finally, and once more gearing up for another mining, resurgence.
Unfortunately it will not be a 'boom' as it was previously, but at least we will be the recipients of many who may otherwise be struggling, either now or soon.
As before, we welcome anyone from anywhere, as we, in the West, could not handle the skill shortage we ended up with.
So I believe that the do-gooders are going to have to put the luxury of their childish beliefs on hold for some time and let reason and common sense prevail and not emotions and fantasy.
The position Australia is in, and heading for worse yet, if we don't do something about it, will make us vulnerable to the highest bidder.
If you don't believe me check the old newspapers, again you will find evidence of Australia being slowly sold off to foreign interests.
Posted by ALTRAV, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 1:14:22 PM
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