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Live exports : Comments

By David Leyonhjelm, published 18/9/2018

Our livestock export industry not only provides affordable protein to some of the world’s poorest people; it also provides Australians with 13,000 jobs.

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I don't even like animals; However, I also do not like cruelty, and live exporting of animals is cruel and disgusting. Tin pot New Zealand stopped live exports years ago, and their humanity hasn't brought them to their knees. The senator is better suited to dealing with silly women in the senate than he is promoting gross cruelty, brought about by the grossly cruel sect of Islam. The senator and the government that permits live exports are a disgrace.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 9:28:55 AM
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//This debate about live exports is not about animal welfare.//

Bollocks.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 10:22:22 AM
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just a shame not the same enthuiasm for babies being butchered in the womb. Right up to birth if the 'compassionate' feminist in Queensland have their way. What a sick society.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 10:38:54 AM
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Let's get the hysteria and mis-information out of the way first.
Then let's look at this in a pragmatic and mature way and not through the eyes of children and dreamers.
Firstly we must stop 'buying the bull'.
I don't know who is behind this stupid anti 'live exports', but I'll bet there are vested interests.
There always is.
I am not that well informed as to be able to name, names.
These people hide behind dummy companies so as to not be exposed.
Now as for 'cruelty'.
The images we are shown are from sources other than those being promoted.
These ships are open sided, so any suggestion they are hot, as is promoted, is a lie.
As for the sheep standing neck high in sewage; another lie.
It is just NOT possible.
If any of you actually saw the structure and design of a 'sheep ship', you would see how all this anti live sheep export is a con.
Now as for the idiots who promote the killing and freezing of meat like NZ is doing.
Different market, different circumstances.
The morons pushing against live sheep export have created all this hysteria in their own minds and found like idiots, to promote their naive agenda.
The sheep that die between here and their destination were obviously crook to begin with.
The number of deaths are reported by the idiots and of course are inflated in a pathetic attempt to make their case.
The same sheep would have died anyway.
Just ask the farmers.
As for the heat factor.
I can't believe people don't get out more often and see that sheep live in some very, very hot climates, and still survive; if they are healthy.
So this cruelty crap is a no brainer.
There is no cruelty, just a bunch of annoying people with the intellect of a 5 year old and enormous lack of maturity.
Just to put things in perspective, has anyone seen the aftermath of a dog or fox attack?
Now that's cruelty.
But that's life.
Get over it.
Posted by ALTRAV, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 11:49:39 AM
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I spent many of my formative years on a farm. And we were so poor that even our scenery was in black and white. And I have the photos to prove it. Levity aside, there's as much protein in an avocado as a T-bone steak. And one doesn't need refrigeration to store meat indefinitely.

After the animal is slaughtered and dressed, [or undressed,] Given its coat is surgically removed. Then hung for later cutting/boning.

At which time the meat is frozen and boxed. Or cryovaced and boxed.

Cryovaced meat can be stored transported as chilled meat, then still has a shelf life of several weeks before it's cooked. Can be chilled and thawed just once, usually still sealed in the bag replete with traditional herbs and spices.

With all the meat juices retained to add to the tenderness of the cuts. Even if done in a camp oven over an open fire.

Cryovacing on its own is good for several weeks and those weeks can extend to years if the meat is also irradiated.

Cryovacing alone gives a few weeks unrefrigerated shelf life. because the vacuum process removes all air and irradiation destroys any and all bacteria.

We could irradiate the meat if the abattoir was a nuclear-powered one where the released xenon could be concentrated inside a sealed chamber, chock full of cryovaced meat.

And with that additional process able to be sent anywhere in any country and consumed two or three years later, or just stored here until the market improved.

Meaning we could eliminate the usual fire sales that drought conditions provoke. Albeit, none of those fire-sale prices seem to be prevalent on our own supermarket shelves?
TBC. Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 18 September 2018 12:25:07 PM
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David, keep it up.
So far your doing well by doing what your electorate put you there to do, unlike most of the other MP's.
Don't listen to narrow, naive points of view.
Live animal exports are a major and very important industry.
If left to these morons we will have NOTHING to export, and as Aussies are regressives, it shouldn't be too long before we go into recession.
At the rate the Nannies and the Neuters are pushing to shut down any and all enterprises in Australia, all in the name of some stupid cause or another, it won't be too long now.
This next one, I won't be surprised if it is going to be more like a depression, then let's see how these stupid morons like it.
The trouble with Aussies is they have had it too good for too long and have lost the two most important factors in life; reason and common sense!
Posted by ALTRAV, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 12:31:49 PM
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