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It’s official: democracy has failed so why not try logicracy? : Comments

By Mark Manolopoulos, published 24/8/2018

The latest wrangle over the Prime-Ministership once again proves that democracy is failing – indeed, that it’s a failure. It needs to be replaced with a better political system, and logicracy - the rule of reason - appears to be a better one.

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In Australia “the people" (CANNOT)choose whoever they like”. Candidates are chosen by political parties, and we dopes have no choice but that forced on us. And we NEVER choose the Prime Minister, as the current disgraceful hullabaloo clearly shows. It's the Westminster system, and as long as we have it we, the people, cannot choose who leads the country; we can never choose a Trump to save us.

This bloke is talking rubbish. And he doesn't like democracy: even our pathetic version of it. Anyone as ignorant as he is doesn't deserve to be read.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 24 August 2018 9:26:10 AM
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Mark,

Didn't Plato canvass this notion of rule by a knowledgeable elite, in his fascist Utopian Republic ?

So who would be that knowledgeable elite ? Who would choose them ? Presumably, you would be amongst them, of course:)

And who would be your executioners ?

Cheers,

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Friday, 24 August 2018 10:26:46 AM
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Logic!? In our parliament!?

If logic's rites prevailed we would be building MSR thorium power plants and using them and cooperative capitalism to bring power prices to just 2 cents per KwH. And from them make as much miracle cancer cure bismuth 213 as we could.

And in so doing create huge medical tourism of at least 60,000 persons a year, from just the USA alone. given that's the number of people left to die by big pharma, just, I believe, to boost profit margins with less effective nanoparticle or peptide cancer cures?

Albeit, need to get past the blood-brain barrier to be effective as alpha particle isotope, bismuth 213, which is attached to an appropriate antibody and goes like a sniper's bullet directly to the cancer/brain tumour and kills it without harming the adjacent healthy cells, as many trials in the last fifty years have demonstrated!

FIFTY YEARS!

As some trials on stage four ovarian cancer trials in some European clinics did back in 2006!

2006 is over two decades ago, yet our own ovarian cancer organisation runs annual donation drives and sends people who have invariably relapsed, home to die, with their stage four cancers allowed to spread!

And where radioisotope medicine is erroneously labelled by them? As complimentary or alternative and consequently summarily dismissed? And to repeat, WTF has logic got to do with any of this when all that matters is the rich get richer the sick get sicker? And pollies retire on great big fat pensions and for F'ing the joint as they jockey exclusively for power and prestige, and the devil take the hindmost and the country.

Which we could drought proof if we had leadership, with courage of conviction and good scientific knowledge.

And where the current mob fall flat on their faces, because they don't share a logical brain between them?

And their scientific advice is so last century or the one proceeding that? And evidenced by the results they as alleged leaders, create!?

LOGIC!? WTF HAS LOGIC GOT TO DO WITH IT, DO WITH IT!? OR EVEN GENUINE DEMOCRACY!?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 24 August 2018 11:00:12 AM
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Most people don't even comprehend the meaning of Democracy, let alone live by it's values.
Democracy, as it is being shoved down our throat by the minority groups is the worst kind of Dictatorship because of its hypocrisy.
Posted by individual, Friday, 24 August 2018 11:07:57 AM
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This is the system we have:

"kakistocracy.... a system of government which is run by the worst, least qualified, or most unscrupulous citizens. The word was coined as early as the seventeenth century.It also was used by English author Thomas Love Peacock in 1829, but gained significant use in the first decades of the twenty-first century to criticize populist governments emerging in different democracies around the world."
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 24 August 2018 11:39:31 AM
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Though unfettered democracy would be problematic, that's not what we have - we have the rule of law, and our constitution limits what can be done. So our problem isn't the democratic system; it's those with vested interests keeping the people ignorant.

The case for "logicracy" assumes that reason would solve our problems. But it wouldn't - for a start, reason will still give perverse results when you start with false assumptions.
Posted by Aidan, Friday, 24 August 2018 11:44:45 AM
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