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It’s official: democracy has failed so why not try logicracy? : Comments

By Mark Manolopoulos, published 24/8/2018

The latest wrangle over the Prime-Ministership once again proves that democracy is failing – indeed, that it’s a failure. It needs to be replaced with a better political system, and logicracy - the rule of reason - appears to be a better one.

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To be honest though (as opposed to fair), history shows that there can be great things done by leaders who have unlimited power within their country to do them, but there are also leaders that with such an amount of power they brought more ruin and horrors to the people, the country or the world as a whole. With that in mind the burden of checks and balances is a worth while one so that an evil tyrant can't do as much harm. It's a system to be wiser in the future and not repeat the same lessons of the past when an imperfect leader, or an evil one comes into power.

These are just some thoughts for you to consider before drafting the next step of a logicracy in a future article. But one more thought to add is the burden of the people. Although there is a mix of educated and uneducated people, a mix of experienced and inexperienced, and a mix of wealthy and poor, there is one thing I see among all of them. The ability to criticize our leaders at a moment's notice for less then trivial matters, and to be a wall against our leaders to fight if we deem then as failures. With that in mind, an issue of any system is the criticism and restraint of the people to hold back the leader from doing their job well. Even if the perfect leader with wisdom and logic that you envision comes about, their success falls on whether the people will back their man, even through some mistakes and hard lessons. Overcoming a growing culture to be a critic of anything might also be a consideration for your next article.
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Sunday, 26 August 2018 5:16:59 AM
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Gawd, fancy giving the power to the logic academics.
Already they are suppressing free speach in the universities and trying
to impose it on the general public, via political incorrectness.
For all its disadvantages, at least when they find they have an out of
touch would be CEO of Australia then they can turf him out and choose
one of their number.
They can correct the direction of government which they believe is
heading of track. After all those cabinet members would have a good
idea which way the PM is pushing and if the majority of them can see
that he has gone of track then a majority of them can bring the
government back on track.
Isn't that why we elect them ?
Posted by Bazz, Sunday, 26 August 2018 12:11:17 PM
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What makes some people believe that by engaging the same type of experts who caused us to be in this mess, things will improve ?
Posted by individual, Sunday, 26 August 2018 12:30:10 PM
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Well if you are right Has and I suspect you are?

Then the only way forward while serving logic's rites is for a divided party to divide and become the real conservative party and the real liberals, who almost to a generic man? Consider most of what the real conservatives advocate as being, idiotic ideology?

And if we would destroy Labor and or the unions who decide their policy position for them? Then the way to do just that is to embrace cooperative capitalism! And just too easy!

Albeit, for many conservatives, unpalatable poison! Who are wedded to an illogical notion we have to have foreign ownership, to also have foreign investment?

Even when we own a 2.5 trillion dollar super fund! And should be smart enough to create a suitable government guaranteed, investment vehicle to not only get it back and working here. But leverage another 2 trillion lazy money just looking for suitable long-term guaranteed returns, safe investment!

When instead, cooperative capitalism is the most efficient and productive form of free-market private enterprise. And has the added benefit of restoring the country to we Australians, rather than a patent plethora of tax-avoiding, price gouging, profit repatriating foreigners?

And with that done, just get on with the big stuff we need to build a robust 21st-century economy! And in so doing, drought-proof this wide brown land! And restore/reinvigorate our sacrificed manufacturing sector! As union free, profitable private enterprise!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Sunday, 26 August 2018 1:05:12 PM
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Dear Logicade,

It has come to the attention of the State Logicariat that you have been thinking illogically. Our source has observed you commenting that things were never as bad under capitalism. As you are aware, the logical framework established by our Supreme and Ever Irrefutable Logician, Number One Thinker, advises that for the ideal function of Our Wonderful Society it is essential that all citizens think logically. Mere mention of capitalism, aside from the scurrilous and illogical nature of your comment, is in breach of this logical standard, makes you unfit as a citizen and necessitates your removal. Fortunately, the infinite mercy of Number One Thinker will give you the opportunity to correct yourself at our state of the art error correction facility. Here you experience the logically proven corrective methods of extreme exertion, calorie restriction and thermal therapy. It is a hard road ahead, but should you succeed you will have great honour of having your citizenship of this great nation restored to you.

Warm Regards
Posted by Fester, Sunday, 26 August 2018 3:52:14 PM
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How about we try the Chance System?

Every election day, all the tax file numbers are drawn from a lottery barrel and the first 100 or so become the next government?
If a bye election is needed the barrel is spun again.

Would save time and money and all of those elected would be presumed to be productive.

We'd have to be ahead, and it would take care of gender issues into the bargain.

Another chance system, the country runs a National Lottery and all registered electors get a free ticket every week, the only prize is 'X' million dollars and after three years all the winners are required to become the next Parliament, unless they have previously opted out of the lottery.
They do not get a salary as their winnings are invested for their lifetime in Government bonds that give them a decent income; at the end of their life/that of their wife, the money reverts to the lottery fund.

Now this system would not ensure that we get the brightest members, nor the most honest, best looking, charismatic, etc, but it would mean that we get the lucky ones and it'd save a hell of a lot of money.
If, by chance, any of the lucky ones were re-drawn then they would have the option of not serving or serving with no increase in income.

We'd have to be ahead because we sure don't get even the lucky ones now.
Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 26 August 2018 5:26:57 PM
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