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Transgenderism: the new feminist battleground : Comments

By Russell Grenning, published 29/6/2018

Back in January, the City of London which manages Hampstead Heath and its ponds decided that the ladies' pond would welcome trans women and that this decision was consistent with the Equalities Act 2010.

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Society should not be providing anything but male and female toilets. If this miserable, pathetic minority cannot use existing toilets, let them find a bush. What have they been doing prior to all this whining; what are they doing now? Wearing nappies until they get home? It is only since they got on the identity politics/victim band wagon that most of us have even heard of these weirdos. To hell with them.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 1 July 2018 9:29:22 AM
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Dear Foxy,

Maybe it's the residual Marxist in me but I often fall back on, "What would Marx think ?" Around thirty years ago, it struck me that the women's movement should keep a 'respectful' distance from the various homosexual movements, since (so it seemed then to me) their interests were so at odds, otherwise they would be folded into each other in a ghastly tangle of contradictions.

Despite the odd lapse on his own part, I think Marx would have unreservedly supported the women's movement, but would have been baffled and repelled by the homosexual and related movements. I'm not even sure if Gramsci, the architect of the march through the institutions of bourgeois society, would have gone along with what his descendants are trying to do.

Marx was into the overthrow of capitalist society by the working class, and its replacement by socialism. Where people pissed, or who was up who and how, probably wasn't on his radar, but if such people are now at the forefront of the revolution, ...... I dunno, maybe I should migrate. But where to ? Where is there anywhere a pro-feminist society which couldn't give a damn about sexual preferences, which hasn't confused the two separate ranges of issues ?

Love,

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Sunday, 1 July 2018 11:56:25 AM
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Dear Joe (Loudmouth),

I can't speak on the behalf of "feminists" or tell them
what they should or should not do. I can only speak on
my own behalf. I personally don't know any transgender people.
I've of course read quite a few biographies and found them
very moving. We can all find empathy towards the difficulties
that some people would encounter - simply by being different
from the "norm" in society.

I look forward to the day when a person's human worth and
achievement will matter more than their colour, race, gender,
religion, or any other qualification.

And I think that working towards making this a better place for
all of us - is not a bad thing to do. Education seems to be the
key in getting rid of so many prejudices. I'm sure that you'll
agree.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 1 July 2018 12:13:18 PM
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cont'd ...

Dear Joe,

BTW: -

I don't support men using women's toilets.
No matter how they may define themselves.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 1 July 2018 1:00:36 PM
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Joe,

Most people would have been “baffled and repelled” by the homosexual and related movements those days, including Karl Marx. The revolutionary Marxist had pretty much the same morality as everyone else. Not so now for the cultural Marxists who have what Marx did not: a ready made society already lacking in morals. Those who don’t ‘do it’ still like to watch, as it were. Look how easily today’s equivalents of Karl Marx conned the amoral dupes into voting for SSM, without letting on that they (the dupes) were helping them to wreck the family, which was the real aim.

As Karl Marx hated the family as much as his modern counterparts, if he were alive today, after seeing the SSM victory for Marxism, I believe he would go for everything, including gender- bending, pooping and pissing together - and anything in the way of perversion that divided and conquered Western society.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 1 July 2018 1:41:15 PM
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Dearest Foxy,

Perhaps one could modify that statement: "I look forward to the day when a person's human worth and achievement will matter more than their colour, race, gender, religion, or any other qualification, and it will be legitimate to not give a toss about anything but their human worth and achievement."

How people want to dress, what bits they want to dock, who and what and how they want to root, is what Marx might have called bourgeois distractions, and I think he would be right. [God, I'm still such a Marxist that it fleetingly crossed my mind that he would have approved of Dr Martin Luther King's statement]. There are vastly, vastly more important issues in this sorry world.

Ttbn,

Perhaps Marx and Engels hated the contemporary need for marriage, based as it was on either/and the need to marry girls off young, and the need for the propertied/capitalist classes to ensure the safety of their investments by uniting their sprogs and reproducing themselves: in "Origin of the Family ..." Engels writes warmly of the recency of what we might now call 'true love', love between men and women as equals.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Sunday, 1 July 2018 2:07:01 PM
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