Dear Nick,

«But..but..the topic is about the Biblical God»

Actually, the topic at hand is the Son of God, the Saviour and, as I prefer to relate to him, the remover of obstacles.

(as I am not a Christian, I have not contributed directly to this topic)

«If he is real with a mind»

Minds are limited and finite, minds exist in order to help us cope in the world: why would God need a mind?

«then wouldn't he do the things you describe - choose, interact and judge?»

Those actions require the existence of two (duality).
Since there is nothing but God, how would this be possible?
Choose among what? Himself and Himself?
Interact with what? There is no other.
Judge whom? Himself?

«causing laws of science. How do you view it?»

I am not bothered about them or how they came about. The laws of science are here for now, that's a fact, and will seemingly continue to operate as long as we remain under the spell of this illusion as if the world is real. My aspiration is to wake up and be released from the bondage of this illusion, so why should I waste my time trying to "understand" more about its internal workings? The solution for nightmares - is to wake up!

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Dear Not_Now.Soon,

«So far this doesn't seem like a problem that would shift God from existing to not existing»

But existence itself is a limitation. Do you consider God to be limited? Would you worship a limited God?

Both existence and logic can make no sense outside of God.
Is your faith in existence greater than your faith in God?
Is your faith in logic greater than your faith in God?
These are tests.

Yuyutsu in the battle picked up her brahmin and knocked his head on a tree who asked :"why did you do that?" Yuyutsu said "I didn't" and flew away.

To AJ Phillips.

[I spoke only of the MRI because you conceded that the coming out of the coma could have simply been the result of good medical help. Now you want to fall back to that and assert that it was the result of an answered prayer? It sounds like I’m wasting my time here, now.]

Why would I not think it was a result of answered prayer? I put it in my examples because I see that it was. If this is a waste of time though then we can move on to the sermon on the mount. The weak explaination of co-incidences is also making me think we should move on. Thank you for giving some other explanations, like a well timed seizure that helped me out (and never happened again), or the unexplained psychophysical elements. however if the explainations for prayers being answered rests on bad memory, the brain doing weird things, or convient co-incidences; then then perhaps it's time to move on. Though thankyou for taking the time to be part of it.

[And I would very much like to tell you, but I get the feeling that you’d simply pick out some trivial difference to dismiss it as nothing like your experience.]

It's your call. I really am interested, but I understand that kind of doubt. (I had it as well before giving my examples of experiences). I don't think that these kinds of experiences happen only when someone prays. A friend who is agnostic shared a strange story she had regarding avoiding a car accident. Said she felt something push her out of the way when no one else was there just before a car crash occurred where she was standing. She's of the opinion that something is out there, but she's not sure what, and it's not a priority for her right now. I don't doubt you can have a similar experience, I just don't understand the reluctance to address that God is real.

[Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?"]

The key factors for me is that
1). God is real.
2). The world is broken in it's suffering, corruption, and evil acts committed in it.

Because of these I've gone to my best guess of why the world exist in the state that it's in. It's a testament to the powers and authorities that rebelled against God in Satan's rebellion, of what their rebellion would come to. Not a utopia, but a broken world that eventually God will fix, and remove all of the evil elements that made it so evil. A living history to show the whole world, the whole universe not to turn away from God. My best guess of an answer is that God allowed the world to come to the state it is in, because it is a witness to not just us but to everyone in heaven

Even if I'm wrong on why the world is the way it is, the 2 factors are still the same. 1). God does exist, and loves the world greatly. 2). The world is broken.

If the rock problem isn't about whether God exists or not, then perhaps we should move on. After all, if God has limitations, but is still all powerful to the worlds He created, what difference does it make?

To Yuyustu.

[But existence itself is a limitation. Do you consider God to be limited? Would you worship a limited God?]

How would existing be a limitation, Yuyustu? God created the heavens and the earth of the physical universe, as well as whatever exists in the spiritual planes that are not seen. He is not just a concept of God. He is God. His interactions on our world throughout history show that unlike other deities worshiped God isn't a figment of our imagination, or a hand crafted statue that has no influence. Not existing is a limitation. But existing? I don't see how that is an issue.

My faith in God stems from both His love, and my trust in Him. From there my understanding grew from seeking Him, reading His written word, praying and always seeking.

Dear Not_Now.Soon,

Only objects exist.

Often we hear women complaining: "Stop treating me like an object", but how come we have no second thoughts about treating God like an object?

An object is subject to time and causation. Also, when objects interact with each other, they incur a counter-reaction (Newton's law) that changes them in some way or another. If for example an object created this world, then prior to creation that object was a potential creator, while afterwards it would change to become the actual creator.

Existence is an illusion, a false human sensation, whereas in Truth, all that seems to exist and change is the never-changing, Absolute, God.

May your faith in God ever grow.