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God, gays and guesswork : Comments

By Alex Grancha, published 9/5/2017

It's about a gay man who was welcome at church but whose lifestyle wasn't.

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Firstly, sexual orientation is not a lifestyle choice. It is deeply rooted in the psyche.
Secondly, Christians do not have to be biblicist while taking Scripture seriously. The Spirit has always moved on otherwise we would still be bound by the diary laws of ancient Israel. If you read my last post from the one published today you might understand. Asian Acts10 following the Spirit does new things. Our experience is that sexual orientation is fluid and it is time that the Curch by the grace of God acknowledged that.
Peter Sellick
Posted by Sells, Tuesday, 9 May 2017 5:10:56 PM
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Dear Phanto,

«Most people do not wish to hurt a soul - there is nothing religious about that.»

I wish that was true.

It is however, realistic and too common as part of the human condition to harbour wishes of injury/death to one or more other souls. Obviously we are civilised enough to not express such wishes openly (except when alcohol looses our tongue).
Also, most people kill animals to eat their flesh.

The wish not to hurt a soul is thus not automatic, it requires conscious effort in opposition to the human/animal nature and such effort when made, brings us closer to God, hence it is religious.

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Dear Peter,

Yes, sexual orientation is fluid and it is time that the Church by the grace of God acknowledged that.

Nevertheless, the church is not there to support sexuality: while the church should accept all sinners, it should also continue to teach that in order to reach God we must transcend all forms of animal/human instincts, including sexuality, regardless of its orientation.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 9 May 2017 6:11:48 PM
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I'm not an expert on religion and I can see that
the author is very emotional about this issue.
What I do believe though is that one of the basics
of Christianity is that it believes in forgiveness.
Therefore how are mortal men and women to fulfill it?

Banning a person because of their sexual orientation
or discriminating against them I don't think is the
answer. We've all heard the usual arguments - that
God created Adam and Eve. Well he also created
Adam and Steve, and Olive and Eve.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 9 May 2017 7:24:28 PM
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runny

Surely you jest Geezer MATE!

Forget you not, Matthew 19:14, the International Standard Version [1]:

"Jesus [Christ, MATE!], however, said, "Let the little children come to me, and stop keeping them away, because the kingdom from heaven belongs to people like these."

So endeth this lessen, inspired by our admitted Big Man in the Vatican, Prince of the Church, HIS Eminence [no women need apply]...etc

[1] begets http://biblehub.com/matthew/19-14.htm

MATE!
Posted by plantagenet, Tuesday, 9 May 2017 10:40:26 PM
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All ye (NSA identified) sinners out there, in OLO land. Feast ye eyes

On his Vatican God-Link, The Young Pope, played heterosexualy by Jude Law http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Young_Pope .

Worship this Youtube, or forever hold on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6we2blItR4s
Posted by plantagenet, Tuesday, 9 May 2017 11:02:42 PM
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" I am a church man and I believe it is a place of healing and real answers."

The author's problem, along with many of his ilk, is that he may be a church man, but is he really a Christian? People don't choose to be homosexual, they are born that way. Get your head out of the Bible and become a human being.

David
Posted by VK3AUU, Wednesday, 10 May 2017 9:28:20 AM
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