Ah be the sinners - who equate homosexual urges with certain brands of the priesthood, business.

suddenly gained a moral conscience plantagenet? Oh maybe the evolution fairytale might have some merit.

Aye runny

On the gay (life without women, bliss!) = Catholic priest equation

is it any coincidence that:

"Ultimately, (Oscar) Wilde converted to Catholicism as he lay on his deathbed, therefore dying a Catholic.

Some things Wilde wrote indicate a more nuanced and thoughtful view of religion and society. For example:

"Religions die when they are proved to be true. Science is the record of dead religions."

AND

"People fashion their God after their own understanding. They make their God first and worship him afterwards."

More at http://hollowverse.com/oscar-wilde/

Cheers

Poida

Dear Phanto,

«You do not have a dilemma- you have an emotional dependence on religion and your emotional dependence is your problem»

The author is crying: "I want to be true to the Bible but not hurt a soul. Can you feel my dilemma?"

Now which of the two do you consider to be religious? the Bible -- or the wish to not hurt a soul?

I say that religion is on the side of wishing to not hurt a soul.
So did Jesus, which infuriated the Jewish establishment.

The Bible on the other hand (and certainly the old testament), is not a religious text - it's the national book of the Jews, it includes their national history and mythology, their national morals and the national laws according to which they should live for the Jewish nation to prosper. This happens to include the form of god which Jews should uniformly worship, not because it spiritually suits each and every Jewish person, but because it benefits the nation the most when all its members worship the same deity. This is not religion!

' On the gay (life without women, bliss!) = Catholic priest equation '

for someone who denies absolutes plantagenet, it is not all that rational to speak of equations. Just try thinking a bit.

Yuyutsu:

Most people do not wish to hurt a soul - there is nothing religious about that.

What this author is trying to do is to prevent hurting himself by avoiding a choice. We all have to make choices according to our values and that is the nature of life.

No one can help him do what only he can do.