AJ: and by marginalising them all, you only encourage radicalisation.

Are you saying that in order not to marginalise moslims we should give into their Islamic demands?

If we don’t give into their demands, there will be more moderates who will suddenly become radicals, who will kill us. If we don’t eventually convert, they’ll kill us anyway. Either way We lose. Every day there is a new Imam telling us just that, somewhere. Utube is chockers full of these Imams espousing their intentions towards us Infidels. Especially in Britain & we’re the next target.

Suggest a solution AJ. Nah, that’ll never happen. I’ve asked for contributors solutions before. The reply. “Not my job.”

Foxy, I love you, you are a nice person but, I feel, you can have an, “I don’t want to know that,” mentality sometimes. Is Mise says that there are 109 Koranic Verses calling for the killing of You & me. I have given you a few to look at but you won’t. You say that not every moslim believes in those parts. It “is” compulsory for every moslim to believe every word of the Koran. If a Moderate moslim say they don’t believe in “This bit.“ That’s Blasphemy & that means a very physical death sentence if they are found out. Apostate. Not my Rules, theirs.

Foxy: You can learn a great deal if you keep an open mind.

Yes you can, Foxy. Yes you can.

Graham, you looked up those verses, didn’t you? ;-)

Do not hold your breath for Saint Rosy Batty to buy into any of this. She certainly knows which side her bread is buttered. She earns a fortune and knows as long as she only picks on white men she is safe. If she goes anywhere else Rosy knows she will be completely out of the tent.
Sickening!

leoj: "A SENIOR Muslim leader has said using violence against women is a “last resort” for men.

In the interest of equal rights for moslim women, as espoused by Yassmin Abdul-Magied on Q & A, & this statement by Keysar Trad in the Australian. Highly respected Islamic Spokespeople.

Do the Wives of a moslim man have the equal rights to bash their misbehaving Husband? Personally, I think not. How say the Islamist on this conversation? Yay or Nay.

Dear Jayb,

I'm no sage or expert. I simply take people
as I find them. I don't judge people by their
skin colour, their religion, their gender.
or their race.
I judge people by their behaviour. And so far my
experiences with Muslims has been a very positive
one. My doctors and specialists are all Muslim
(except for one Dane and one Chinese). The staff
looking after my mother in her nursing home - some
of them are Muslim. A more caring, professional
people I would find hard to find. The only violent
Muslims - are the ones I read about or hear about on
the news. And Muslims are not the only ones prone
to violence on the news. We hear about people
being king-hit, beaten up in brawls, and other
violent acts. Anyway, I shan't argue
any further. I'll simply retreat into my world.
A happy place where everyone treats everyone else
decently and shows them the respect that they want
shown to them.

See you on another discussion.

Foxy: I'll simply retreat into my world. A happy place where everyone treats everyone else decently and shows them the respect that they want shown to them.

Even Pit Bulls & Staffys are nice, but suddenly you find yourself with your face ripped off & a dead child. But not all Pit Bull or Staffys have done that, yet.

There's a new movie out now about that sort of attitude. "La La Land" apparently it's very good. I don't know, never go there myself.

Graham,

I would agree with that, although it does somewhat clash with Jesus’ stated intentions.

<<Christianity does not subscribe to Old Testament systems of punishment. It's just undeniable. And it is sad to see people pretending that it does.>>

Another difference between the systems of punishment in the Old Testament and in the New Testament, in addition to the differences mentioned in the link you provided earlier, is the notion of eternal punishment after death, which was only introduced in the New Testament.

The differences between the two Testaments are a serious problem for Christianity, and for an omniscient and omnipotent god. Even the two main schools of thought that attempt to resolve the problem of a god whose temperament appears to change between Testaments (Covenant Theology and Dispensationalism) contain fatal flaws.

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LEGO,

Well I guess I’m smart too then.

<<… I am sure [Graham] can understand that the principle of equality means exactly that.>>

I’m not sure what your point is here, though.

<<Regardless of whether any group of people united under any ideology call themselves whatever name, then those people who insist that Equality is some sort of fundamental human right are obligated to judge all groups of people in exactly the same way.>>

Agreed. Although it’s unclear as to what you’re referring to when you speak of Equality with a capital ‘E’. That’s a new development.

<<Especially when the Leftist Equality fanatics who claim to be absolutely opposed to racism are faced with judging different groups with similar "demonstrably false and dangerous beliefs", but with different skin colour.>>

Agreed. “Leftist” moderates too.

<<Your problem is, that if you insist upon equality for all, then there is nothing that applies to Muslims that does not apply equally to Nazis and Klansmen.>>

Oh? How is that a problem for me?

<<All of them are groups of people united under their own particular, [widely-accepted] belief system, …>>

No, the latter two also hold offensive UNIVERSALLY-accepted beliefs. Still no double standard.

Oh well, there’s always tomorrow.

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Jayb,

That’s what you posted yesterday. My response can be found at http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=18849#336305.