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Could Australia’s gay marriage debate be the next revolt against the establishment? : Comments

By Lyle Shelton, published 21/11/2016

Blowing up the plebiscite was never about protecting vulnerable gays from Christian hate merchants, it was about making sure the issue did not find its way into the hands of ordinary people who might not do as they are told.

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Every question that phanto has asked with "why" and "what" in it has the same answer: For much the same reason that 10 million or so other Australians do, along with hundreds of million Europeans and Americans do. Try being a person of the world and asking them, starting with married people you know.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 11:58:03 AM
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Hi o sung wu

“I don't believe anyone in our community should be subjected to any physical harm or verbal abuse because of their life-style”.

I totally agree, however there are those in our society who chose to ignore or even acknowledge gay bashing still occurs. They only talk of “rainbows” and chose to ignore some inconvenient truths.

Most of us have worked alongside gays, lesbians, transgender etc in complete harmony and have forged life long friendships, they are no different to you or I, they just live a different lifestyle. Times have changed in acceptance since the 70’s.

Three years ago two guys from work opened up a “support group” for those who didn’t feel inclusive in society, or hadn’t quite announced they were gay. Our guys came back with some rather extremely sad life experiences related to them by their “fellow family” guests, from physical abuse, drugs, alcohol and other addictions.

Three teams in the work place organised a fortnightly run to assist the “support group” guys in their work, the funds provided tea, coffee, fruit platters or anything else to assist in running 3 nightly meetings per week for their “fellow family” guests.

The “support group” wanted a place whereby their guests could talk openly, have a safe place and support of others – and not feel judged.

We all felt proud in the fact that we were able to show support to our two guys (both gay) – who felt passionate enough to go the extra mile to help others in a time of great stress. We celebrate their successes and the positive effects they have made in many lives of all “fellow family” guests.
Posted by SAINTS, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 12:27:58 PM
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Hi there SAINTS...

Gay bashing is still the preferred sport of 'boofheads', most of whom wouldn't dare confront a male, Gay or otherwise, in a 'one-out' stink, which surely exemplifies the precise bounds of their personal courage! Please don't misunderstand me, I'm no 'white knight' who's inclined to defend homosexual behaviour, in fact I find it quite repugnant on every level. That doesn't mean I'm a closet supporter of these maggot gangs who seek out these unfortunate men, for the purpose of bashing them senseless on the feigning deception it's a curative practice in order to 'turn' or 'return' a gay man back to normal heterosexuality?
Posted by o sung wu, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 12:52:45 PM
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"Often funded by governments or billionaire members of the establishment such as George Soros, the 'LGBT' lobby has become more and more brazen in its extreme demands to curtail freedom under the guise of banning “hate.” In the face of opposition from Christians, Muslims, Hindus, and even many liberty-minded homosexuals, however, it has become clear that the only way to quickly achieve the goals of radical LGBT-agenda proponents is co-opting education and the press, and the coercive power of the state. (See: Thursday, 02 January 2014 -
Citing EU, Italy Orders Journalists to Promote Homosexual Agenda.)

"To put it simply, there is an obvious effort on the part of the left to demonize anyone who disagrees with the homosexual agenda and the argument being used is that disagreement with their ideals equates to hatred and bigotry." http://freedomoutpost.com/exposing-global-effort-behind-homosexual-agenda/

Like the skewed "statistics" that are used by the Feminazis to justify funding, air time, journalistic license, university scholarships, government policies and more, the industry that runs this mindset and the misanthropes behind it need to be brought to account. I doubt that will happen for a very long time though. Maybe there is hope in the form of people like Hanson/Trump. There are far more instances of women perpetrating Domestic Violence (both in hetero and homo relationships) than is ever reported. As usual its the children who are the meat in the sandwich.

The term "best interests of the child" as used by the Family Court can and has been bastardised. Today it is the weapon of choice for those seeking to excommunicate their former partner/spouse.

That we, as a society are being forced to participate in this plebiscite at all tells me that fascism is alive and well in today's Australia.

In the words of Ines Radman: "Why do I need to accept it? Do you see Swingers organizing huge Swinger Pride Parades and openly sharing partners? Do you see normal, healthy, natural couples organizing huge Pride Natural Couple parades to bring about awareness? We should because we have lost those values about family, mother and father raising children."
Posted by Albie Manton in Darwin, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 5:05:34 PM
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EmperorJulian:

"Try being a person of the world and asking them, starting with married people you know."

I know you and you are married but you did not give me an answer! You just said for the same reasons as other married people which is not an answer. Perhaps you don't have one.
Posted by phanto, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 7:46:36 PM
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Albie Manton,

Thank you for this discussion’s first instance of the Naturalistic fallacy with a quote from some bigot (yes, ‘bigot’ is a fair and apt term until someone can come up with a rational argument against same-sex marriage) who misses the point and uses a false analogy to support their position (swingers aren’t discriminated against) and the baseless implication that children need both a male and a female parent for optimal development (there is no evidence for that, and plenty of evidence to the contrary).

phanto,

Whether or not EmperorJulian has a good reason for being married is irrelevant to the issue.
Posted by AJ Philips, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 8:14:55 PM
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