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Could Australia’s gay marriage debate be the next revolt against the establishment? : Comments

By Lyle Shelton, published 21/11/2016

Blowing up the plebiscite was never about protecting vulnerable gays from Christian hate merchants, it was about making sure the issue did not find its way into the hands of ordinary people who might not do as they are told.

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phanto, I don't feel any need to respond to your arguments as I actually agree with you. It may seem contradictory given I support same-sex marriage but I don't actually believe in marriage. I believe it is an outdated and archaic institution that has no place in the 21st century...and marriage ceremonies (generally speaking), to me, have become a means of wasting of time and money. It seems to be a competition as to who can have the biggest and most outlandish 'wedding'...all in order to basically get a government sanctioned piece of paper.

However, as it does exist for heterosexual couples I can see no good reason or argument for it not to be extended to same-sex couples. Hopefully we can cease the to and fro-ing about it as we're getting nowhere! And it seems only you and I are the ones taking part in this part of the forum that has become the ultimate 'gift that keeps on giving' ;)

Cheers phanto...and merry xmas to you and your family :)
Posted by minotaur, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 3:20:39 PM
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"It may seem contradictory given I support same-sex marriage but I don't actually believe in marriage."

It is contradictory and totally illogical. Whatever the government chooses to do should be logical and reasonable but you are advocating that they behave in a totally illogical way.

You can't see any good reason for marriage but you are saying that they should alter the marriage act to permit even more marriages to take place and yet you cannot see anything wrong with that?

Clearly you are not sure what you think.
Posted by phanto, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 4:46:12 PM
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Clearly you cannot comprehend complex thinking about issues phanto. I extend a courtesy and you respond with a shallow insult. Go and get...
Posted by minotaur, Wednesday, 21 December 2016 7:39:19 AM
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AJ Phillips - your response on 16/12 -

Regarding my post the newspaper article related to transgender persons only.

Really - have you read more articles since?
Posted by SAINTS, Saturday, 24 December 2016 5:52:56 PM
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AJ Phillips and any others

The author states

"We know this because a bright spark in Labor briefed the Sunday Telegraph’s Samantha Maiden about secret polling which showed they would lose.

Blowing up the plebiscite was never about protecting vulnerable gays from Christian hate merchants, it was about making sure the issue did not find its way into the hands of ordinary people who might not do as they are told."

This is so true, and is evidenced by a Christian Lobby group seeking to hold a peaceful meeting at a Sydney venue earlier this year, the meeting had to be abandoned due to “alleged” threats (newspapers report threats) to staff at venue by advocates of same sex marriage?

So what does that say for Australian democracy for those who wish to oppose SSM they can’t hold a meeting to discuss their views among Australian citizens – who have a right to hold a meeting

Do you wish me to go on as I can provide further information.
Posted by SAINTS, Saturday, 24 December 2016 6:13:22 PM
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AJ Phillips

You advised my newspaper article referenced only transgender people is correct.

So my question to you being - as advocates wish to believe - that "transgender" people deserve "special" treatment in times of emergencies...why?

In times of any emergency, whether they be the (A-Z) community - WE ARE ALL ONE....Australians.
Posted by SAINTS, Saturday, 24 December 2016 6:36:51 PM
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