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Could Australia’s gay marriage debate be the next revolt against the establishment? : Comments

By Lyle Shelton, published 21/11/2016

Blowing up the plebiscite was never about protecting vulnerable gays from Christian hate merchants, it was about making sure the issue did not find its way into the hands of ordinary people who might not do as they are told.

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minotaur,

Yes, you are right, I did mention referenda and I do have short-term memory blanks sometimes. I'll back down on that one. However using the word 'poofter' does not make me homophobic because I don't hate homosexuals. I don't like homosexuality and I never will, but I'm happy to treat them the same way as everybody else, except for SSM. I'm sorry I didn't mention dykes, as the omission seems important to you.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 21 November 2016 9:23:44 PM
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When Trump is your role model, you are truly deplorable. Clinton is no angel. Electing Trump is horror to all sensible humans of the world, a laughable thing except to die hard bigots. Castigating Clinton for what she said about deplorables is twisting the truth out of joint. It's true you have to be either deplorably bigoted or irredeemably ignorant to vote Trump. That is what Hillary meant and no, that's not what cost her the election. The white people who needed a saviour for white privilege had to get the baddest bigot in sight, and they got Trump. That's deplorable. Clinton saying it simply provided a cheap excuse for those wanting to resurrect Hitler in the name of Trump to do for America what Hitler did for the Germans. Germans pretended the holocaust wasn't happening, yet participated fully in it. Bigoted Americans and all their bigoted cheerleaders allover the world are pretending bigoted white supremacy is not playing out in American politics. They pretend oh it's because Clinton supported gays and talked of deplorables.
Pay no homage to the evil that played out in Trump's election or you truly lump yourself in Clinton's basket of...you guessed it.
be cautious when writing in Christian forums. Your readers have backgrounds from all continents of the world. Your wording may easily come off as cheap propaganda to excuse the inexcusable - just saying.
Posted by Elana, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 10:09:28 PM
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LGTBXYZ have no legal disabilities and tantruming for a Right to a Rite is ridiculous. We have real problems, ignore this rubbish.
Posted by McCackie, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 8:13:49 AM
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All those claiming to be Christians saying ACL doesn't speak for them or is wrong,surely ACL must be judged by what the Bible says on these issues and in my experience they are usually in accord so either you are not reading your bible or ignoring what it says both of which cast doubts on your claims to be Christians. I certainly hope that this will be the next revolt against the establishment and also a wake-up call to you "Christians" who think SSM or homosexuality in general are all right
Posted by maricus, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 10:06:15 AM
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Hi there MARICUS...

Being a 'born again atheist' even I know the Bible doesn't support homosexuality in any way. Males who engage in this behaviour are committing sodomy, whereas females are actually not engaged in anything unlawful, other than lesbian behaviour. When I first joined the job we used to lockup those males who were caught engaging in sodomy (homosexual activity) in public places. Today, well it's now been decriminalised throughout Oz, therefore it's become more or less a moot point.

Lesbians never did come under official police notice other than being occasionally charged with indecent behaviour or indecent exposure, all under the old Summary Offences Act and before that, the old draconian Police Offences Act. Though lesbians did incur the wrath and suffered significant ostracism from the puritanical members of our society, as is their right.

Personally, in those days I never thought it appropriate men should be locked up for sodomy, provided it was conducted in discreet circumstances, and no other offences were associated with; or compelled by it. Still many would no doubt disagree with me I reckon?
Posted by o sung wu, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 11:42:55 AM
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Elana's rant shows exactly why Trump was elected. It is her kind of irrationality that caused people to overlook Trumps flaws while seeing how sick the lefist ideology is.
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 3:01:11 PM
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