"But after Trump’s triumph it is likely Australia’s progressive elites are breathing a sigh of relief."

In view of the fact that the progressive elite kept claiming that polls showed that SSM was favoured by the majority, it is indeed puzzling why they opted out from having a plebiscite.

Were they afraid that polling conducted of same-sex attracted people would show that their majority opposes SSM? In any case, why on earth would the majority of them want to tie the knot and thus forego their promiscuous freedom?

yep and the hissy fits, the violence, the name calling, the sooking from the losers is something that no rational human being can understand. Obvious that their 'education' received from brainwashing institutions have not taught these drongos much about real life.

//This so-called Australian Christian Lobby does not represent most Christians.//

They're certainly not with the Catholic Christians. I read the Catholic Weekly when I can, and they never quote the ACL even when they're in agreement. The ACL are clearly a Protestant outfit, so there's about half the Christians they're supposedly representing done away with back in the Reformation.

And when it comes to the proddies, I'm not convinced they're all fully behind the ACL either. Has anybody asked the Uniting Church about how they feel about being 'represented' by these Tory shysters?

//And the plebiscite? Like most plebiscites: doomed to fail. Australia's record for passing them is very poor.//

You might be confusing plebsicites with referendums. A plebiscite only needs a majority to pass, but it's non-binding. A referendum needs a majority in the majority of states - much harder to achieve - but it is binding. Referendums can only be held on constitutional matters. Plebiscites are essentially an official and expensive opinion poll of the entire voting public.

//What we need is direct democracy as is enjoyed by Swiss citizens.//

Our Westminster system of parliamentary democracy, inherited from the British, has served us extremely well. It was good for the Brits, too: the Empire Upon Which the Sun Never Sets. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. And I don't see the evidence that the Westminster system is broken.

minotaur,

Your own intellect is not up to much: homophobic? How crass! Referendum? Who said anything about a referendum? Do you mean plebicite? The two are different. Your homo friends don't want either. You are in no position to make remarks about anyones intellect.

Hmm, seems ttbn has some memory issues. I shall quote ttbn from a post in this forum 'We need to start calling very loudly for direct democracy via referenda on things like SSM, multiculturalism, immigration etc.' Direct reference to referendums there.

I shall also help out with the homophobia with words from ttbn; 'We also know that the poofter-pandering idiot Turnbull has been banned from the Mardi Gras for his pains.'

To refer to gay men as 'poofters' is a homophobic slur. Not only that, it excludes gay women. More discrimination.

Yes, clearly my intellect is not up to it.

Waverly why on earth do you think you can tell the rest of us anything? Putting up arguments that lost and backing it up with insults and invective?
I suggest you read some Rudyard Kipling as he was very keen on "Good" sportsmanship. Accept your loss, appreciate you have misread the majority and go down to the girls toilets for a cry!
No one likes a cry baby Waverly.