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Could Australia’s gay marriage debate be the next revolt against the establishment? : Comments

By Lyle Shelton, published 21/11/2016

Blowing up the plebiscite was never about protecting vulnerable gays from Christian hate merchants, it was about making sure the issue did not find its way into the hands of ordinary people who might not do as they are told.

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Toni Lavis:

“I just thought it was interesting to observe the types of sex they're more comfortable discussing. Not trying to make anyone envious.”

Why would that be interesting unless you were passing some kind of judgement about your comfort versus their comfort? Are you trying to tell us or are you trying to tell yourself that you are comfortable about discussing all types of sex?

Leo Lane:

“Sexuality has nothing to do with it. He is correct.”

Then why are you discussing sexuality? Why are you discussing something which is totally irrelevant to the topic? Why are you arguing about something which cannot be presented as an argument either way for or against same gender marriage?

As it stands the law says marriage has to be between a man and a woman so if that is what you want then you have already got what you want so there is no need to argue. It is up to those who want to change the law to present a viable argument in favour of changing the law to allow people of the same gender to marry.

If you have a problem with homosexuality then this is not the place to deal with it. Nor is it the place to try and justify it.
Posted by phanto, Friday, 16 December 2016 2:17:12 PM
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minotaur,

It’s all good fun. I know I’ll never convince those commenting here, but who knows who else could be reading. Besides, watching a someone as thoroughly unpleasant as ol’ Leo squirm and fumble is priceless.

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Leo Lane,

No, you did. Remember?

<<AJP, in his desperation to distract from the true agenda of the same sex activists led the thread to a discussion about perversion.>>

“We should consider what the activist perverts say about marriage.” (http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=18673#333128)

If you claim that an entire demographic of people are perverts, then others have the right to request a justification for that claim. That in itself doesn’t necessitate an attempt to distract.

<<… and has employed his nonsense “fallacy” arguments to attempt to keep it there.>>

How are they nonsense? You don’t know, do you? You just want to say something disparaging about them to give the impression that you’ve countered them.

I take it you’ve given up trying to justify the ‘pervert’ claim. Looks like you gave it a good couple of days’ thought there and then decided, “Nah, too hard. I’ll just make it look like AJ was creating a diversion out of desperation. Yes. Yes, that sounds good.” Fine by me. I knew you wouldn’t be able to justify the claim anyway.

<<As I said:” We should consider what the activist perverts say about marriage.>>

And those two people you quote speak for all people in support of marriage equality, do they? How do they know what motivates each individual? Because they’re gay? The majority of those who support marriage equality are heterosexual, some are even right-wingers, so if I quote a straight person contradicting those two, does that negate your Appeal to a Homosexual Person’s Thoughts?

Once again, your approach is fallacious.
Posted by AJ Philips, Friday, 16 December 2016 2:26:23 PM
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YAAAAAWWWWWNNNNN...the T800 tedium continues.
Posted by minotaur, Friday, 16 December 2016 9:19:09 AM

If you have nothing except to ignore the facts then claim they are not posted then when I go to the trouble of reposting them for you... perhaps you need to debate a mirror.
Posted by T800, Friday, 16 December 2016 4:35:05 PM
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AJ... Minor Taur... you both live in denial... stop wasting my time.
Oh and everyone elses... its obvious who the bigots are here.
Posted by T800, Friday, 16 December 2016 4:37:51 PM
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wow - AJ Phillips, Minotaur's responses to O Sung Wo and T800 (and others) in relation to this thread - say's it all.
Posted by SAINTS, Friday, 16 December 2016 4:49:38 PM
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T800,

You’re the one wasting the time of others. Here we go to the effort of well thought-out responses to your repetition and you still provide nothing but the same discredited arguments as if they still meant something. Then claim that we can't face facts and slink off. Nice.

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SAINTS,

Wow! I noticed you too couldn’t point to a specific example of what it is that is just ‘wow’. When you don’t have an argument left, just pretend to be shocked at something. It makes it look like you came across something that just... just... "says it all", and diverts attention from the vacuous arguments, barefaced assertions, and abusive trolling that has actually been going in the other direction.

Do you have a rebuttal, or are you just going to pretend like there was something there that said it all?
Posted by AJ Philips, Friday, 16 December 2016 5:26:14 PM
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