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Could Australia’s gay marriage debate be the next revolt against the establishment? : Comments

By Lyle Shelton, published 21/11/2016

Blowing up the plebiscite was never about protecting vulnerable gays from Christian hate merchants, it was about making sure the issue did not find its way into the hands of ordinary people who might not do as they are told.

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T800, please show where I have 'lied'.

Leo Lane, there is a good reason I have not taken any note of your creation of a word and definition for it...quite simply, like you, it is absurd, ludicrous, has absolutely no credibility and only deserves scorn.
Posted by minotaur, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 7:45:58 AM
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Why does it matter whether or not homosexuality is a perversion? This issue is about same-sex marriage and not about same-sexuality marriage. Sexuality has nothing to do with it.

The law at present discriminates against people of the same gender marrying. It discriminates against same-gender couples whether they are homosexual or heterosexual. Arguments put forward for change should be based on equality of gender and not sexuality. Why should people of the same gender be allowed to marry or not marry? That is the question.

People who try and dismiss homosexuality and those who support it are wasting their breath since sexuality is not relevant. Those in favour of same-gendered marriage have to come up with an argument for change without reference to sexuality. Anything else is pointless.

Those who claim to be concerned about equality and discrimination need to stop talking about sexuality. It is not the issue. If you really care about equality and discrimination you will want the law changed to include everyone regardless of sexuality. If that is what you truly want then you will stop arguing about the merits or otherwise of homosexuality.
Posted by phanto, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 8:50:42 AM
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I thought so A.J.PHILIPS, again you attempt to mask your obvious ignorance of basic police procedure by simply dismissing it as a mere quiz. Despite your claims to the contrary, with another 'flurry' of verbiage calculated to obscure your stupidity.

You are nevertheless a 'fraud' my lad! Carefully concealed as you try, but a fraud regardless. Masking your fraudulent assertions by continually claiming... I 'never' answer or respond to your many 'measured, and reasoned arguments. I do wonder whether this whole criminology caper is not just a figment of your imagination, another reason why you decline to inform us of your occupation?

Bleating on as you do, complaining of my dismissal and indifference to everything you say or have said, ostensibly because of my 32 years in the job? Naturally, who wouldn't? None of us seem to know who you are, that generally happens when branded a fraud A.J.P.

Reading your very first response to one of my Topics - I immediately formed the opinion that I disliked you ! Had no respect for either; your chosen career, or for you as an individual. You see it's extremely hard to respect a fraudulent individual A.J.P. especially one with an ego to match that of a Walter MITTY type that leaves us all confounded and confused
Posted by o sung wu, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 2:17:22 PM
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I wasn’t trying to mask anything, o sung wu.

<<… again you attempt to mask your obvious ignorance of basic police procedure by simply dismissing it as a mere quiz.>>

I thought it was quite obvious that I didn’t know the answer to your question. And why would I, given what I said in the comment that I linked to?

I didn’t try to dismiss it as anything. But now that you mentioned it, it was a “mere quiz”. I mean, you don’t think it was a formal exam, do you?

<<You are nevertheless a 'fraud' my lad!>>

Could you provide some evidence or an example of this?

<<Masking your fraudulent assertions by continually claiming... I 'never' answer or respond to your many 'measured, and reasoned arguments.>>

Where have I said anything of the sort?

<<I do wonder whether this whole criminology caper is not just a figment of your imagination …>>

It would be a pretty impressive one given that it leaves you baffled and causes you to eventually strike out with nothing more than insults and personal attacks.

<<Bleating on as you do, complaining of my dismissal and indifference to everything you say or have said, ostensibly because of my 32 years in the job?>>

No, but you don’t do yourself any favours by fallaciously appealing to authority - with yourself as the authority.

<<Naturally, who wouldn't?>>

Many. Most are at least smart enough to judge an argument based on its own merits. I take it I was right that you were trying to find an excuse to fallaciously dismiss what I say, though.

<<None of us seem to know who you are, that generally happens when branded a fraud A.J.P.>>

None of us really know who anyone else here is, but I don’t see you calling everyone a fraud.

I don’t take your insults too personally though, o sung wu. They’re directed at a fictional character that you put in place of me to attack because you feel that you’ve lost your position as OLO’s criminal justice expert, and that REALLY pisses you off!

No sympathy here.
Posted by AJ Philips, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 4:11:46 PM
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A.J.PHILIPS...

Indeed, that's exactly what you are, a 'fictional' character ! But back to the 'quiz' - you claimed you're abreast of ordinary police procedure - or similar language. You're not! this is despite your many excuses. What you are acquainted with is 'words' masses of words. Merely repetitive verbiage, nothing else. Indeed you're a sad figure of 'make believe' A.J.P., who I suspect suffers with the 'Peter Pan' syndrome. With attempts to convey your thoughts with empty meaningless waffle, amounting to nothing of substance.
Posted by o sung wu, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 5:24:14 PM
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AJ,

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--HzffjeXY--/joqmja0vcavbrxmznblj.jpg
Posted by Toni Lavis, Wednesday, 14 December 2016 6:07:46 PM
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