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Softening Australia's position on refugees : Comments

By Peter Bowden, published 30/9/2016

The dozen reasons set out below for softening Australia’s position on refugees are idealistic, humanitarian, legal, practical and economic.

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You see, Peter, with *real* ethics, you undertake moral responsibility for your own actions and the welfare of others.

With fake ethics, you preen yourself in the cafes and on the street corners, you pontificate and puff yourself up with windy indignation, you ostentatiously demand that others should be forced to do under compulsion, what you yourself refuse to do voluntarily.

Yours is the fake kind.

Being a professor of administration, you have always known that you advocate is funded by the State’s coercive process, backed up by police and prison. If and when someone is tasered, handcuffed, imprisoned and raped as part of the process by which you treat him as an instrument of your will to increase the funding of what you want - what you call a "softening of the position" - how does that sit with what you call your “ethics“? Are you fine with that? Can you see anything wrong with it? Please don’t go quiet and try to slink off without answering as if no-one notices. What’s your answer to these two specific questions please?
Posted by Jardine K. Jardine, Saturday, 1 October 2016 9:16:41 AM
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Not one comment supporting your ratbaggery, Peter, unless Banjo’s “no comment” means that he is as stupid as you.
One country seems to have followed the direction you would like to inflict on us, Germany.
You should go and live there, Peter, you deserve it, and Germany deserves you.
We certainly do not..
Posted by Leo Lane, Saturday, 1 October 2016 12:37:03 PM
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«But you cannot ignore this overall issue, for it defines Australia as a nation.»

Most of the members here seem to believe that it is OK to stop the boats, incarcerate their passengers and otherwise do whatever it physically takes to prevent them from arriving to this continent - all justified by their definition of Australia as a nation.

The author however, argues that it is, for 12 different reasons, actually in the benefit of the Australian nation to allow those people in.

Though claiming the high moral ground, the differences between the author and the majority of this forum are superficial and insignificant: both agree that a group of people, by virtue of calling themselves "nation" and acquiring superior weapons and similar means of coercion, is entitled to claim and subdue a vast stretch of land as their own, a whole continent in the case of Australia, then dictate who may or may not enter it - and both wish to forward the interests of one such group, albeit suggesting different tactics for doing so.

This is why I CAN and WILL ignore this issue!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Saturday, 1 October 2016 10:38:02 PM
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Yutsie: then dictate who may or may not enter it

Too bloody right, mate, & so it should be. Otherwise, we'd end up with all sorts of Riff Raff. Some of them have already got through the net courtesy of the Greenie, PC, Lattee Set & their high & mighty Lawyers, & look what that has got us. That lot will, of course, deny that it was their fault.

Australia now has a Security watch & Australian peoples lives are in danger. Something we never had before this Middle Eastern Mob arrived.
Posted by Jayb, Saturday, 1 October 2016 11:59:07 PM
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Dear Jay,

«Otherwise, we'd end up with all sorts of Riff Raff»

Hmmm. And previously (say before this Greenie, PC, Lattee, etc. thing that you mentioned) we had none? thus Aussie-born white guys and gals are all milk and honey, all healthy, shiny, productive, curteous, friendly and righteous, right?

So unlike Muslim Imams who are typical, paedophile Christian-priests are simply bad-apples.
Unlike dirty Muslims, British-descendants are simply unwashed.
Unlike rough-spoken Muslims, whites can only be a bit impulsive.
Unlike Muslim bullies, white kids who do the same are simply keeping a tradition of preparing their friends for adult-life.
Unlike Muslims who are bigamous, British people can only be fun-loving polyamorous.
Unlike Muslim riff-raff, white hooligans are simply adventurous spirits.
Unlike anti-social Muslims who fail to drink alcohol and use drugs, British guys and gals who do so exhibit trendy mateship.
Unlike conservative Muslims who respect their outdated parents and care for their useless elderly, true Aussies are progressive and rational when they throw them by the wayside or dump them in nursing-homes.
Unlike stupid Muslims who give charity, clever Aussies do it through government so they can lay that burden on those few who still pay tax.
Unlike stupid Muslim families who save for their daughter's wedding, wise Aussies spend that money on the pokies, so then they can call themselves "victims" and receive more.
Unlike noisy Muslims who call their devotees to pray from the minarets, white kids who deafen themselves with shallow idiotic lyrics accompanied by loud bang-banging, which also emanates from their cars as they drive past for all neighbours to hear and appreciate their hormones, are music-lovers.

What appears on Muslim-skin as warts, when it appears on white skins is merely dimples!

One mystery remains: given that British customs and genetics are so pure, where have those Greenies emerged from, who later invited the Muslims? Bestiality perhaps? Oops, that's politically-wrong: when white people do it, it should rather be considered as being in harmony with the animal-kingdom, right?

Wouldn't those security control-devices which you mentioned be more effective if instead they were placed on White/British wombs?
Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 2 October 2016 3:30:59 AM
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The point that needs to be made here is both simple and clear and it is this. To "own" territory on this planet a group of people has to not only occupy it but also be able to exclude other claimants from that territory. Minions of the modern left have sadly drank too much of the "we are all one people" Koolaide and they think that there is something ethically wrong with us giving precedence to our own needs when it comes to who we allow to settle here. They also seem to think that as a nation we have to have an eternal immigration scheme instead of seeking to become self sufficient at making new Australians. We have enough genetic and social diversity as our population stands now and if we really need more Australians we can and should make them the old fashioned way.
Of course doing so is a much slower process than importing readymades but the chances that we will have better quality control and a better final product are much higher when we make them ourselves.
Posted by Iain_Hall, Sunday, 2 October 2016 7:20:37 AM
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