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Softening Australia's position on refugees : Comments
By Peter Bowden, published 30/9/2016The dozen reasons set out below for softening Australia’s position on refugees are idealistic, humanitarian, legal, practical and economic.
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Posted by Jayb, Friday, 30 September 2016 5:43:46 PM
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<10. We will have jobs for them.> Australia doesn’t have enough jobs for the people here, let alone bring in a flood of illiterate people steeped in Seventh Century Customs & Traditions who refuse to change. <11. The argument that it is ethically correct to stop the boats –as we stop the drowning - is false.> That’s only one argument & the drowning have stopped. The other reason is that they are Economic Migrants not Asylum Seekers by definition & therefore not allowed. <12. After we have cleared Australia’s “concentration camps”, we could take in refugees from other parts of the world. A common sense priority would be to take families first.> “Concentration Camps” Emotive nonsense. I have no problem with that. Providing they are Primarily Christian, Hindu or Buddhist & not Islamic. Although people from South America are mostly Economic Refugees & therefore not admitted. There ya go Peter, but we will never hear from you, will we. Posted by Jayb, Friday, 30 September 2016 5:45:11 PM
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It’s okay Peter, I found it, you can stop looking.
“DEED AND DECLARATION OF TRUST “I, the undersigned, hereby solemnly and sincerely declare that I hold the whole of my property, both real and personal, ON TRUST to pay for all the costs of dealing with asylum-seekers to Australia with the compassion, and to the standards, I proclaim as good and morally necessary. “This includes all costs of: • Ensuring their safety at sea and safely landing in Australian territory • Health and identity checks • Accommodation, food, health, mental health, sport, recreation, training during processing • The costs of determination of refugee status, including all administrative and judicial reviews • The costs of administration, including all premises, equipment, travel, accommodation, staff, salaries, tax, superannuation, workers compensation, holiday leave, flex leave, long service leave, maternity leave, study leave • The costs of resettlement including income support, housing, and training • Full indemnity for any crimes, including full costs of legal, court, administrative costs, and impact on victims... “I declare that I cannot ignore this issue, for it defines who I ethically am, and what sort of country I want ours to be. I am activated by my deepest humanitarian sympathies; current policies are unconscionable whereas I pride myself on being conscientious, the pull on our empathetic feelings is strong, and I look forward to the economic benefits that this will secure for all. “On that basis, I make this solemn declaration as legally binding with the intention that any person in Australia should have and does hereby have a legal action against me in law and equity for judgment as to the whole of my property in repayment of any and all of the above costs, in satisfaction of the values of humanity I have publicly declared without so far having to, or ever AT ANY STAGE intending to put my money where my mouth is. SIGNED, SEALED AND DELIVERED Peter Bowden” Peter, could you please print this out, sign it, and post your signed original back into this thread in pdf. Posted by Jardine K. Jardine, Friday, 30 September 2016 7:45:35 PM
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Also Peter, could you please hurry up because
1. We are talking about real people here under the risk or reality of persecution - not the rhetorical flourishes you are used to treating them as; and 2. I have told that guy, who maintains that you are a sanctimonious poser and a deplorable fake, that you certainly are not, and I can prove it. So hurry up. Make sure you include your real address for service of the writs. Oh yes, the non-bullsh!tting part of the population don't expect you to bear all the cost and risk yourself. No worries. Make sure you post copies to the ABC, the Labor Party, the Greens, the socialists, the Refugee Council of Australia, the Jesuit Refugee Service, the Uniting Church, the Refugee Advice and Casework service. Problem solved. According to them, they could not be more keen to support this, and let's put this whole sordid affair behind us, shall we? Think of their sighs of relief when they realise that no refugee will need to suffer fear or exclusion any more because of the greed, selfishness and short-sightedness of people who just don't care, and are your moral inferiors. Posted by Jardine K. Jardine, Friday, 30 September 2016 7:51:53 PM
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I likey it Jardine K. Jardine
A classic mate :) A team of Borderforce Blackshirts* should go round to Bowden's joint to witness 'im signen it. * The Milizia Volontaria per la Sicurezza Nazionale (MVSN) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackshirts Posted by plantagenet, Friday, 30 September 2016 7:59:38 PM
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9 - Your statistics do not appear credible in the context of Australia, with the low life trash called the Apex gangs in Victoria.
Also in European countries with the amount of sexual assaults. Back to the drawing board you go. I could ridicule and poke holes in lots of your points but I suspect it would be a waste of time, if you are deluded enough to actually believe what you have written is factual there is not hope. Posted by Philip S, Friday, 30 September 2016 8:14:03 PM
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<7. Articles 14 & 15: “Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution” and that “No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his nationality nor denied the right to change his nationality”.
Article 62 f. Says that Economic Refugees are not Asylum Seekers.
Article 31 refers to Asylum Seekers as having come “Directly” from danger. It also states that once people leave the Protection of the UNCHR Camps they cease to be Asylum Seekers 7 are then Economic Refugees. Therefore are not allowed. That’s why the UNCHR won’t take over Manus & Nauru Islands. These people are not recognized as Asylum Seekers under the Convention by the UNCHR.
<8. Greece has accepted just over one million Syrians since the start of the Syrian crisis. Turkey has the largest Syrian refugee settlement with some 2.5 million people.>
Greece, Turkey, & Italy have had no say in the matter. Their Borders were flooded. Australia has the good fortune of being able to stop that flood before they arrive.
<9. The US has also found that immigrants commit fewer crimes than native-born Americans and take jobs that no one else will (Washington Post,). U.S.-born adult men are incarcerated at a rate over two-and-a-half times greater than that of foreign-born men.>
Oh Crap!
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