SOL,

I don't disagree with you, but restraint and positive action is required on both sides. When I hear an imam state to his followers that what ISIS is doing is heresy and that they will go to hell, then I will believe that they are taking matters into their own hands. All I hear now is platitudes and excuses.

Oh I don't think that is strictly true Shadow Minister.

The SMH reported in January that Imams from countries all over the world ordered a fatwa against ISIS members and denounced them as non-Islamic in their actions and views.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/muslim-leaders-including-the-grand-mufti-of-australia-back-fatwa-against-isis-20160101-glxtbp.html

Shadow Minister,
The Iraqi national police SWAT team have an Instagram account and they post pictures of captured ISIS fighters asking their online followers to give them the thumbs up or thumbs down, after an hour if the number of thumbs down is greater they shoot the captive.
http://www.funker530.com/iraqi-swat-wants-your-instagram-vote-for-isis-executions/
Suse.
Sometimes Jihad Is Just Jihad: Examining the West’s habit of blaming itself for the terrorism directed against it.
Heather Mac Donald
http://city-journal.org/html/sometimes-jihad-just-jihad-14313.html

There's no solution to the problem , repatriation and ethnic cleansing are not going to happen because even though there are plenty of thuggish people who'd do the dirty work anyone with the intelligence to organise the liquidation of Europe's Muslims realises that taking that role means a one way trip to a war crimes tribunal at The Hague, if not a hangman's rope a la 1946.
There may well be an uprising or full blown Jihad in Europe in the next few years but Muslims in general lack the intelligence and organisational skills to carry it through to a coup d'etat or genuine revolution, the only way they could make any ground would be if large numbers of Europeans took the lead, armed, trained and supplied them.
So unless an Omar Pasha type figure, a European convert with military genius comes onto the scene it'll just be this simmering, crime wave scenario that's now the norm in heavily Muslim cities.

In response to Shadow Minister who wrote: “When I hear an imam state to his followers that what ISIS is doing is heresy and that they will go to hell, then I will believe that they are taking matters into their own hands. All I hear now is platitudes and excuses.”

Please read:
"Sunni cleric: ISIS chief al-Baghdadi ‘is going to hell’ ": http://amanpour.blogs.cnn.com/2014/11/17/cleric-isis-chief-al-baghdadi-is-going-to-hell/

The following is a Friday sermon (khutbah) by the same shaykh, a powerful and moving tribute to an aid worker executed by ISIS. This is followed by a lecture which summarises his recent book: "Refuting ISIS". Background to Shaykh Muhammad al-Yaquobi can be found in the article or his website below

In his sermon the Shaykh declares that ISIS is going to hell, they are not Muslims but gangsters and that on these points all of the Ulema (scholars of Islamic jurisprudence) are agreed.

Source for both og the videos: http://www.halaltube.com/speaker/muhammad-al-yaqoubi#.VvomiPt97IV

Tribute to Abdul Rahman (Peter) Kassig
Peter Kassig was an American from Indiana who was on vacation in Lebanon. He saw the suffering and death in Syria and felt compelled to help them. Instead of going back home, he went to Syria and with is medical knowledge he volunteered his aid. He converted to Islam and was captured by terrorists known as the self-named group “Islamic State” (ISIS/ISIL/Daesh). He was murdered by them. Shaykh Muhammad al-Yaqoubi honors his actions in this khutbah.

Refuting ISIS: A Rebuttal Of Its Religious & Ideological Foundations
Shaykh Muhammad Al-Yaqoubi presents an important and enlightening talk based on his new book, “Refuting ISIS.” The book details how ISIS bases its ideology on a superficial and literalist approach to the sacred texts of Islam; and concludes that ISIS does not represent Islam, that its declaration of a caliphate is invalid, and that opposing ISIS is an obligation upon Muslims.

Shadow Minister wrote "There's no solution to the problem , repatriation and ethnic cleansing are not going to happen because even though there are plenty of thuggish people who'd do the dirty work anyone with the intelligence to organise the liquidation of Europe's Muslims realises that taking that role means a one way trip to a war crimes tribunal at The Hague, if not a hangman's rope a la 1946."

So you view "repatriation and ethnic cleansing" and "liquidation of Europe's Muslims" as a "solution"?

If not for the possibility of being prosecuted in the Hague, would it also be a "solution" for Australia?

I have three thoughts on this:

1) Religion unifies people and nations, but religion doesn't divide individual people. If a nation is having inner turmoil, especially between religious people, it is because the nation itself is pretending to be above the very people that make it up. Better off separating, let ISIS have the land they claim. If someone else has a claim on that same land let them fight for it. Let all who claim the land fight for the land, if they believe in their nation so much. If they die they lose and if they don't, they win.

2) History suggests that nations have been fighting for thousands of years over land. Let's not pretend that it is about to stop. A little group of self-righteous "world rulers" in the UN are not going to stop nations (politically recognised or other) fighting to claim their land. With the exception of total world-wide adherence to one culture, religion, etc. it is impossible to achieve this world peace.

3) Defense is the best offense in the battle against this kind of 'terrorism'. If your walls are so high that they can't get in to blow you up, you win and they can't have your land.