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Brussels attacks: restrain and rethink : Comments
By Mal Fletcher, published 23/3/2016Today's events in Brussels also remind us of the failure of political correctness as either a way of thinking or a government policy.
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Posted by grateful, Sunday, 27 March 2016 2:03:54 AM
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70% of the refugees coming into Europe are young fit males.
The evolunary roll of young fit males is that of warrior. They defend and take territory. So to let hundreds of thousands of fit men into a country is Equivalent to letting an army in. If those males can find a way to arm themselves through underground means you have an enemy army of large proportions inside your Countries borders. If only some of them plant bombs and kill, it is still a huge problem. Isis kills all the boys and men for a reason. They realise that if they let them go, they will most probably have to fight them Again at some point. They don't fear the women in that respect because they Know the women aren't naturally warriors. Europe to my mind is already gone, they just don't seem to realise it yet. But over time it will become obvious. Posted by CHERFUL, Sunday, 27 March 2016 2:07:41 AM
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Grateful says "To illustrate, let me quote from Bernard Lewis again: “Muslim fighters are commanded not to kill women, children, or the aged unless they attack first; not to torture or otherwise ill-treat prisoners; give fair warnings of the opening of hostilities or their resumption after a truce; and to honor agreements."
What a total crock. You are asking for evidence that is actually in front of your own eyes. Europe is a lot more resilient than you guys appreciate. Last century millions were killed and displaced in two wars and that can happen again. Not under the current leadership of course but get some real mettle and it will be a different story. Then the muslim will be the victim, at last, they will get what they always complain about. As sharia law is horrible other just as horrible laws can be enacted. Posted by JBowyer, Sunday, 27 March 2016 8:31:09 AM
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JBowyer
Bernard Lewis was (he recently passed away at 99) one of the leading historians of Islam in the Middle East and you respond with "what a load of crock"! Did any of you reach year 8? I use his testimony because he cannot be accused of being an apologist for Islam. He belonged to the inner circle of the neocons advising Bush in the lead up to the 2nd Iraq war: http://forward.com/news/163089/neocons-gather-to-fete-iraq-war-godfather-bernard/ and http://mondoweiss.net/2012/04/bernard-lewis-revises-bernard-lewis-says-he-opposed-invasion-of-iraq/ What he says is completely uncontroversial in scholarly circles. If you think you can offer a different opinion, one that is just as authoritative, then please do. What you guys have to realise is that by discarding the principles of critical thought and scholarship you are betraying values that have made Australian institutions secure from the tyranny of populist like Trump. Trump is not just any old populists but one with a dangerous mental disorder: "A neuroscientist explains: Trump has a mental disorder that makes him a dangerous world leader" http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/a-neuroscientist-explains-trump-has-a-mental-disorder-that-makes-him-a-dangerous-world-leader/ Is this the future you want for our kids? Posted by grateful, Sunday, 27 March 2016 10:48:58 AM
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Oh god, grateful, "What he says is completely uncontroversial in scholarly circles." And that is why, grateful all real people consider most scholarly circles are so far up themselves to be just like the wahoo bird, & about as well informed.
When you & your lot at the mosque identify every would be terrorist among you, rather than cover for & support them, we just might believe you are actually grateful. We won't be holding our breath, as we know there is not a grateful, or decent bone in the body of the whole lot of you Posted by Hasbeen, Sunday, 27 March 2016 1:22:54 PM
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Grateful,
There are a few indisputable facts: 1 Most ISIS members and Jihadis are long standing Muslims with the remainder being recent converts. 2 The acts of barbarity are committed in the name of Islam, 3 While Muslim faith is based primarily on the Quran, it is also based on Scholarly interpretations, some of which are more radical than others, incl those that preach violence, which is largely the basis for ISIS. Ipso facto - Islamic state is Islamic terrorism. Posted by Shadow Minister, Sunday, 27 March 2016 2:12:49 PM
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Firstly, you are wrong in assigning the blame for these terrorist acts to the teachings of Islam. You, Jay, Leciferace, kactus effectively concede the point by failing to produce any evidence to the contrary. This is what happens when you hold firm to prejudices in spite of the facts.
Secondly, you are wrong in saying we cann't do anything. Certainly, the police, military and security need to deal with the hardened criminals. But we can contribute to preventing our children from being sucked into this evil ideology, just as we can do something to protect our kids from the evils of gambling,drugs, alcohol, domestic violence, and suicide.
Historically, the teachings of Islam have been the bulwark against tyranny and the spread of Islam has been through good example and teachings (leading historians are unambiguous on this point). so I expect that despite the efforts of extremists and bigots to inflame hatred, that the truth will prevail and expose the illigitimacy of the terrorist movements (and people like yourself).
To illustrate, let me quote from Bernard Lewis again: “Muslim fighters are commanded not to kill women, children, or the aged unless they attack first; not to torture or otherwise ill-treat prisoners; give fair warnings of the opening of hostilities or their resumption after a truce; and to honor agreements."
The terrorist are in violation of the Shariah on every count: they are killing non-combatants, they torture and ill-treat prisoners, they obviously offer no warning, and as individuals they are in no position to be making or breaking truces.
So the solution for lasting peace is to lift the veil of ignorance about the teachings of Islam, which you and others on this forum are desperately keen to maintain.
Our children need to be raised on the truth, and not the lies propagated by the terrorists claiming to be acting in the name of God or bigots claiming to be defending Australian values.