Another foiled bombing attempt in Brussels.
When will they ever learn ?

Bazz and Jay

Have you ever had the opportunity to think critically? to analyse, evaluate, and improve on your own thinking?

Firstly, you assert from the existence of Janissary corps and terrorist claiming to act in the name of Islam, that these acts do comply with Islamic teachings. But neither of you have presented proof despite being requested to do so.

Bazz, you're assertion is contradicted by an eminent scholar:

“At NO TIME did the classical jurists offer any approval or legitimacy to what we nowadays call terrorism. Nor indeed is there any evidence of the use of terrorism as it is practiced nowadays.” Source: Bernard Lewis “Islam: the religion and the people” p. 151

You have not provided any evidence to the contrary. A person committed to critical thinking and the truth would provide evidence to support their views or admit to a mistake, and be glad to do so because it points to a solution: communicating the true teachings of Islam to avoid further harm being inflict on innocents.

Clearly, if you are not prepared to engage is a fair and honest dialogue then you are nothing more than " a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance." Merriam-Webster definition of a bigot

You are a person who is "obstinately devoted to prejudices even when these views are challenged or proven to be false." http://psychology.wikia.com/wiki/Bigotry

And Jay, where is the support for your assertion that the Janissary corps comply with Islamic teaching?

Would you like to share your sources? My guess is that you (like Kactus) will not share your sources for two reasons. Firstly, you know they will not bear up to serious scrutiny. Secondly, they will link you to hate-mongers and bigots.

Bazz and Jay, your behaviour has been cowardly and as fellow Australians embarrassing and such a poor example for the next generation (not that you guys seem to care).

"...concede to undisputed authority." Is that the sum total of your argument, grateful, appeal to authority?

How does your authority account for Islamification of North Africa, for example? Was it missionary zeal, or was it the fact, as history records, of murderous military conquest?

Did those that opposed being Islamified, simply by their opposition, allow the Muslim armies to justify war on the basis of self-defense, as is terrorism?

Do you think taxation, devshirme and second-class citizenship were accepted by the subjugated because they saw some great benefit to themselves, other than staying alive?

Your "undisputed" authority must wear rose-coloured glasses if, like you, he believes Islam was peacefully propogated. I recommend the article I linked for you earlier (translated from Russian, I believe, so nothing to do with the West) as a vision aid.

Lol!

Luciferace,

You've got a nerve. Complete contempt for scholarship and the facts.

And still no sources! More claims, but what are your sources?

Are you also of those "obstinately devoted to prejudices even when these views are challenged or proven to be false." http://psychology.wikia.com/wiki/Bigotry

Shameless and cowardly behaviour. Is this the future of Australia?

I see our posts crossed, grateful.

It is too cute to separate the historic and present day violent activities of those acting in the name of Islam, entirely from its teachings.

It is not difficult to conjure a self-defense basis for violence if one doesn't exist. History is full of it.

Islam is what Islam does.

BTW earlier I said Chamberlain chased the Moslems out of France.
I should of course said it was Charlemagne.
We will need our own Charlemagne. I wonder if Tony Abbott would stand in ?

Grateful, you are a self important windbag !
Waffle waffle, the Islamists call people like you "Useful Idiots".

Don't you see that it has gone way past academic tete a tetes ?
The Islamists do not even know you are there ?
You can just sit there and fiddle with your references.

It is now all down to the police, military and intelligence people.
You and I are irrelevant, we now do not count in this "game".
The Islamists forced it on us once they brought the Baghdad warfare
model to the west.

We now await the Polish Army.