Runner, reality is that this GVT is cutting all services, and it is spending all in other areas, it does not care, all we get is platitudes lies and distortions of facts from a media supporting the far right.Aussies are not silly.

Tristan,
The bourgeois impostors calling themselves Trots and anarchists invented the Fascist threat out of thin air, the UPF are the only legitimate working class street movement in Australia, the "Far Left" work directly for the Bourgeois parties.

Aurora.
Are you saying the media support the "Far right", you're joking of course?
Every single journalist in this country condemns the workers movement as "Fascists", writes reams of lies about us and constantly tries to infiltrate and undermine our groups.

The Nazis referred to their Brown-shirts as a workers' movement too - and you know what they did to them and their leaders when it was expedient... (ie: they killed the leaders and demobilised the movement - in return for state power) That said I again I admit I'm torn on freedom of speech. ie: Once you set a precedent against the absolute nature of it - then it can potentially be violated again and again - with progressively less restraint. This affects the Left as well. On the other hand if there is a real and present threat of fascism perhaps hard decisions need to be made. Certainly the fascists themselves don't believe in free speech and would have us terrorised into silence or in camps as soon as it was in their power. Ironically the right-wing forces that demand 'free speech no matter what' for the fascists don't apply the same principle to the anti-capitalist movement such as 'we are the 99 per cent' - which have again and again been forcibly dispersed by the authorities - and endured slander in order to discredit them and justify that repression.

To me the point is to build a mass movement that can stop the fascists in the UPF and their useful idiots in Reclaim White Australia from demonstrating. Cable Street in 1936 is a great example of that. We on the left have not built such a strong anti-fascist movement and substituting ourselves as some groups do for such a mass movement (in useless confrontations with the fascists) is counter-productive.

The point is a more general one. Hope lies with the mass movements against racism, against fascism, against wage cuts, against sackings. The most important task right now to me is to build a fighting working class movement to beat back the attacks on unions from the Heydon-Turnbull ruling class alliance. Labor politicians are an impediment to doing that. Labor members, what is left of that dwindling membership, might not be. Ultimately the task as I see it is to split the membership of the ALP, well the good fighting sections or those who can be mobilised to fight anyway, from the leadership of the ALP.

Tristan I don't know where you get these ideas, a workers movement is made up of people who work for a living, fantasising about the SA, Dachau and the Night Of The Long Knives is not only perverse it's bordering on delusional.
Who do you accuse of Fascism? The UPF? On what basis?
At no point have we supporters or the leadership tried to shut down or impede the counter demonstrations, we don't stalk the bourgeois activists, we don't attack them or harass them.
Yeah, we mock, we laugh, we deride but it's in our interest to have the bourgeois activists there when we rally, it works in our favour.
When middle class brats beat up workers and elderly men and women, steal their flags, try to set fire to their clothing and so forth it draws people to us. We could just as easily hold spot rallies with no prior warning, assemble the core 50 activists and decamp before any opposition arrived but the point is to demonstrate to the working claees the complicity of the pseudo Left groups in the globalist- capitalist project and their support for the corrupt politicians, councillors and businessmen.