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Peace loving Australian Muslims deserve a ‘fair go’! : Comments

By Aqeel Choudhry, published 24/12/2015

The peaceful, loyal and law-abiding Australian Muslims deserve a 'fair go'. The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community is a perfect example as victim of this over generalisation.

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Toni.
Show us the data proving that the majority of Muslims in Australia are law abiding?
Show us the data proving that Muslims are hard working tax payers?

You can't because no such data exists, when sane, honest people aren't sure about something they're generally cautious, when demonstrable negative consequences like violent Jihad might arise from a programme cloaked in secrecy like Islamic immigration then reasonable people are pessimistic and unwilling to trust either the immigrants or the people promoting the programme.

The facts:
-There is a distinct possiblity that some Muslims will try to murder Australians in the name of their god, we know this from experience.
-Nothing is known about the way Muslims integrate into Australian society because no research into the subject has been conducted.
-The mass media is not a reliable source of information, pretty much every word printed on the subject of Islamic immigration by Fairfax, Newscorp, The Guardian, Crikey, the ABC and so forth is a lie or a distortion.
-Anecdotal evidence suggests that serious problems exist in every level and every aspect of Muslim-non Muslim relations in this country, in the absence of any concrete information one way or another this is reason for skepticism among rational people and requires that non Muslims take a cautious approach to their interactions with Muslims.

Toni if you're happy with blind faith and unquestioning loyalty to diversity dogma then it's no wonder that you strongly identify yourself with superstitious, uneducated and uncritical Muslims, Jews and Christians.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Tuesday, 29 December 2015 7:56:28 AM
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Hi Toni,

I'm intrigued by your suggestion:

"So when various anti-Semites over the centuries have persecuted the followers of Judaism - not a race, but an ideology - were they being racist?"

Pogroms in eastern Europe against Jewish people seemed to focus on their Jewishness per se, rather than their particular sect or ideology. They were killed for being Jews. When they were being killed, I suspect, any slogans shouted at them may have concentrated on 'Jesus-killer !' or 'Killer Jew!' or some such, rather than on the finer points of Hassidism and its baneful effects of Orthodox Christianity.

A bit like ISIS really in their treatment of Yazidis or Christians, don't you think ? Killing Yazidis for being Yazidis, Christians for being Christians ?

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 29 December 2015 9:54:55 AM
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Banjo, JOM, JayB et al, dress up your calls for getting rid of mosques and Muslims from Australia anyway you like, but it is still racism. No doubt about it.
It seems the Australian government agrees, or these radical methods would have been tried.

Of course, according to several posters on this forum, there is some mad conspiracy to force politicians to give law-abiding Australian Muslims a fair go. It must be the greens, global warmists, feminists, leftists, communists, Marxists etc etc.
In fact it must be due to anything other than simple common sense and decency.

Yeah right guys, gather together with your pointy white hoods firmly in place and dream on...
Posted by Suseonline, Tuesday, 29 December 2015 9:59:22 AM
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Suse,

After all of the posts pointing out that you lack facts, evidence and rationality, you continue to do nothing but emote.

You invent "racism" where none exists and won't be swayed by logic.

You won't recognise what is happening in Europe as an "invasion", even though the Left wing president of the Czech Republic does (and probably the Hungarian president, and many others, I'd guess).

You want to redefine every issue to suit your pissweak arguments.

Look, it takes a minimum IQ to play. Apparently you're just not up to it.

Toni,

Jay of Melbourne's most recent post is pertinent.

There is plenty of evidence that rates of serious crime by Middle Eastern and African "refugees" are significantly elevated, compared to State averages.

And if you persist in trying to argue that "they're just like us", hardworking, employed, raising kids and doing all the things that most Australians do, that is manifestly wrong. Many never learn English. Few have employable qualifications. There is a disproportionate number on the disability benefit.

It's therefore difficult to see them as contributors to the national, state or local economies, particularly when you see a 20-something male of Middle Eastern appearance driving a Ferrari, as is common in Sydney's south-west, at least. It's far more likely they are working in the black economy and pay little if any tax and make little or no contribution to the mainstream economy.

Meanwhile, police and security services continue to uncover not one, but a series of terrorist plots.

I don't know any non-Islamists who are similarly engaged. Do you?
Posted by calwest, Tuesday, 29 December 2015 11:09:41 AM
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Suse,
You continue to believe that no one could object to Islam culture without being racist, no matter what evidence is presented. You cannot present counter argument, so you cry racism.

It is well documented that Bob Hawke PM brokered a deal with the LNP for the major parties not to debate immigration matters and leave it up to the government of the day. It is on official parliamentary papers. It is shameful that our parliament conspire not to debate certain topics that directly affect the safety and well being of citizens.
Posted by Banjo, Tuesday, 29 December 2015 11:42:35 AM
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news year eve is 101 years on from when jihadist shot 4 innocent people in Broken Hill. How the regressives ignore, twist and pervert history while destroying this nation.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 29 December 2015 12:37:41 PM
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