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Peace loving Australian Muslims deserve a ‘fair go’! : Comments

By Aqeel Choudhry, published 24/12/2015

The peaceful, loyal and law-abiding Australian Muslims deserve a 'fair go'. The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community is a perfect example as victim of this over generalisation.

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SOL: we let anyone who fits our quota as a refugee, or someone with qualifications we need etc, as long as they don't have a criminal background, including terrorism. Simple really...and not racist.

Well there you go Suze. You are prejudiced. What have you got against Criminals & Terrorist. What is a crime in one Country maybe not in Australia? Maybe some lady drove a car in Saudi Arabia & now she is a Criminal or dropped a Koran now he’s a Criminal or someone is fighting for democracy in their country with words is now a Terrorist. You are denying them entry?

I try to be as delicate as I can be. I guess you are one of those people who are never wrong & get upset & enter into abusive name calling if they can’t get their own way. “Your way or the Highway,” eh Suze. Mind you if the Gender roles were reversed then you would call us all Misogynist, Chauvinist Pigs.

SOL: People like Banjo, JOM and Calwest use the current Islamic terrorism problems to push their racist agendas.

Now I’m offended. You left me out. No, what we are trying to do is enlighten you & your Ilk to the dangers all the peoples of Islam pose to Australia’s Security.

SOL: My point was that the Australian government didn't ban all Catholics emigrating to Australia because of the actions of a few killers in the IRA. So why do you think they should do so with Muslims?

The difference is that the Irish are Christian & they chose to immigrate so they don’t get involved in blowing people up any more.

You can't say the same for moslems they seem to want to start blowing people un in their adopted Country because they won’t convert to Islam. & remember, as all the great learnerd moslem Imams & even the President of Turkey has said, "There are no Moderate moslems there are only moslems. To say one is a moderate moslem is an insult to Islam."
Posted by Jayb, Monday, 28 December 2015 8:59:14 PM
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Suse,
Most of our visitors have now departed so I can spend some time replying to your assumptions, which your opinions are.

I accept the definition of racism that you give and the key word there is 'race'. Islam is not a race, it is an ideology. Criticism of a religion, ideology, culture or personal conduct is NOT racism.

Yes I believe that Australia should refuse immigration of persons that practice the Islamic ideology, on the basis that their beliefs prevent them from integrating with our society. Further, that as according to survey (Paul Sheehan smh) about 20%of muslims hold extreme views, that is far too high if we aim for a safe and cohesive society. You see these are cultural issues and nothing to do with race.

As I said before it is the Islamic culture that is of concern nothing to do with race. Muslims openly state their desire to introduce Sharia law, polygamy, under age marriage, law inequality for females and punishment for homosexuals and apostates. These issues and others make muslims unable to integrate as we reject all these.

You said, "Shall we ask Banjo if he is ok with black non-Muslim refugees from Africa, Indonesia, Syria, Iraq, Pakistan and Afganistan emigrating to Australia? I can assure you it wouldn't be ok with him".

Perfectly fine with me, any colour you like.

You assume incorrectly again. Time and time again I have stated that my concerns are with culture and nothing to do with race. So yes bring any person as refugee to Aus of any skin colour providing they are not muslim. We have a right to select on the basis of cultural compatability, Indeed it is a duty of politicians to select on this basis to ensure a cohesive society. That is not done now.

Now I wish to see your evidence of my alleged racism. Be honest Suse and admit you have no evidence after years of reading my posts
Posted by Banjo, Monday, 28 December 2015 9:32:11 PM
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Suse,

How're you going with the Muslim wife beating?
Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 28 December 2015 9:49:34 PM
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//No, what we are trying to do is enlighten you & your Ilk to the dangers all the peoples of Islam pose to Australia’s Security.//

Beware the towelheads under the bed! Also, watch out for tigers. And bears. They can really mess you up.

//The difference is that the Irish are Christian//

Póg mo thóin.

The Irish are the Irish. If they want to be Christian it's up to them, but there are plenty of Irish atheists. Just for the record, they don't all drink Guinness either.

//they chose to immigrate so they don’t get involved in blowing people up any more.//

ROFLMAO

Just as it is not - and was not at the time - a requirement to drink Guinness and be Christian in order to be an Irishman, it wasn't a requirement that you had to be 'involved in blowing people up'. All you had to do to avoid that was not blow people up, an activity that comes naturally to most of us. I think that rather than immigrating out of fear of being the bombers (against their will, however that's supposed to work...), it is vastly more likely they were immigrating out of fear of being the bombed. Which makes a lot more sense. If I lived in fear of being bombed I might immigrate too, but I don't so I won't.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Monday, 28 December 2015 11:12:29 PM
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//You can't say the same for moslems they seem to want to start blowing people un in their adopted Country because they won’t convert to Islam.//

Well if that's true - and I do have my doubts about that - they're doing a crap job of it. Working to support yourself and family, paying taxes, obeying the law, sending your kids to school and generally just trying to get by the same way that everybody else does is no way to blow people up. How is that going to help? You might as well just pray for people to spontaneously combust.

To blow people up you need explosives and stuff. Working hard and obeying the law just won't cut it. Worst terrorists ever.

//Islam is not a race, it is an ideology. Criticism of a religion, ideology, culture or personal conduct is NOT racism.//

So when various anti-Semites over the centuries have persecuted the followers of Judaism - not a race, but an ideology - were they being racist?

Or were they just being dicks?
Posted by Toni Lavis, Monday, 28 December 2015 11:13:11 PM
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There is only one solution, and that is to ban the preaching's of Islam.

While so called peace loving Australian Muslims follow the preaching's of Islam, so too do the extremists albeit from a different angle, but the point is the extremists feed from the very religion these so called peace loving Muslims brought with them and more importantly the Muslim leaders are either powerless to stop the extremists, or they choose not to.

Shutting down all mosques is the first step.

The decision to allow Muslims to immigrate to Australia will go down in history as one of our worst, yet we continue to allow them in. It is truly unbelievable.
Posted by rehctub, Tuesday, 29 December 2015 6:45:55 AM
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