Dear Jayb,

You are spot on, on both counts.

I am sorry for India, the home of so many great saints and sages and the land of so many miracles, but also a home for so much crime, corruption and misery. I am a Hindu by faith, not an Indian.

Er, Yutsie you didn't answer the questions fully.

Would your ideal System allow women as equals?

Those people that don't qualify for your ideal, would they just be low paid workers to your Kshatriyas?

Would they be considered as of no real worth & therefore not share equally in the spoils of the realm?

Dear Jayb,

My ideal system? Ideally there should be no system!
An ideal society would not have a system, people in an ideal society would just live in accordance with their good nature, but as I said, this does not exist in this era and cannot exist for 1000's of years to come.

Thus all I proposed for now was a limited improvement on the current version of democracy.

Regarding women's equality, why would you even ask such a question? Women can set an example for men and there were and still are female spiritual masters who reached all the way to God!

We are all identical in essence - for we are God, yet no two of the humans through which we operate are equal to each other.

Those people who are inclined by their nature to perform only simple tasks, will offer their services accordingly: nobody has to tell them to do it, it's their own choice. They are as worthy as anyone else, they are still divine in nature, it's only that in this particular lifetime they happen to serve in a different role (and that role can change too, as for example in the case of Rabbi Akiva who started his life as a poor illiterate shepherd until the age of 40, only to end them as one of the greatest Rabbis of Judaism, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akiva_ben_Joseph).

Yutsie: Those people who are inclined by their nature to perform only simple tasks, will offer their services accordingly: nobody has to tell them to do it, it's their own choice.

Ok, but will they get paid like they do in India, just a few cents a day, or will they receive a substantial wage, say equivalent to a Tradesman, CEO, Doctor or Lawyer? The reason I ask this is like, Well nobody likes flies or Ants but without them the entire Worlds Natural System would fail & everything would die. So the flies & ants & the people who do the simple tasks, end up being "the" most important piece in the whole puzzle & therefore, are worthy of a high remuneration.

Yutsie: They are as worthy as anyone else,

Hmmm... by this I guess your answer to my question should be, yes.

Yutsie: it's only that in this particular lifetime they happen to serve in a different role (and that role can change too,

So what happens if I don't believe in another lifetime. I believe, "When ya dead, ya dead." you return to the basic elements of the Universe & beyond. As Newton said, "Mater cannot be created or destroyed, only changed from one form to another."

Dear Jayb,

The moment you talk about wages, you refer to something less than ideal, to some compromise or an intermediate solution. It is so unfortunate that in our age we cannot sustain our life without money.

The correct reason to do work is not in order to be remunerated. It is that, try hard as we want, we are unable to stop and not-do anything, thus if we fail to do what is right for us, then we would necessarily do what is wrong for us!

The Bhagavad Gita, Chapter 18, Verse 47, says:

It is better to engage in one's own occupation, even though one may perform it imperfectly, than to accept another's occupation and perform it perfectly. Prescribed duties, according to one's nature, are never affected by sinful reactions.

http://asitis.com/18/47.html

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Suppose you don't believe in another lifetime: what difference would that make? Believe what you will, if you haven't completed your journey, then you would still have to come back to complete it.

Newton was correct (to a certain extent - later Einstein demonstrated that matter CAN be created from energy and destroyed into energy): your body goes to the elements, so you will never get it back, but you could still get a different one.

Hindus and Buddhists work very hard over several lifetimes in order to not have to return back to this world (those of other religions do so as well, but without knowing it). Now if you are of the view that all it takes to never return is just to jump off a tall building, that simple, then why aren't you doing so? With such a pessimistic view, that whatever you do will all be lost with no lasting consequences and not even remembered, then what difference does it make whether you live or die?

Yutsie: It is better to engage in one's own occupation, even though one may perform it imperfectly, than to accept another's occupation and perform it perfectly. Prescribed duties, according to one's nature, are never affected by sinful reactions.

& That's the big problem in India, isn't it? Segregation of the Classes. The Class above looks down on the Class below. Girls can marry up & improve themselves. Men can't. Why is it considered a sin to improve ones self? Why is it that illegal immigrants, including Indian come, to Australia to improve their economic status.

Yutsie: Hindus and Buddhists work very hard over several lifetimes in order to not have to return back to this world (those of other religions do so as well, but without knowing it).

Reincarnation is a load of crap. When ya dead, ya dead. That's it. No coming back as anything.

It's your Religions belief. It's not really true. There is/are no God, Gods or Spirits. They are all a figment of mans imagination so as to control other men & to give primitive men an explanation of the World around them.