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Bringing Muslims back to Islam : Comments

By Murray Hunter, published 28/10/2015

Islam somehow lost the intellectual initiative and needs to regain its place and dignity in the world.

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Well, so much to read and comment on, so I won't.

All I can say is what the author wrote is very nice and I wonder why
they do not apply it in the moslem countries, who are universally
amongst the most backward countries on earth.

I guess the low IQ of the population has something to do with it.
Having just seen a video of ISIS decapitating four Kurds in cold blood
while using it to threaten infidels I find that the picture of Islam
given by the author to be quite simply a lie
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 2:50:43 PM
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This timely and hearr-felt message should be spread around:

From The Heart of an Honest Muslim!

By Dr. Tawfik Hamid

"I am a Muslim by faith, a Christian by spirit, a Jew by heart, and above all I am a human being."

Dr. Hamid is an Egyptian scholar and author of the following article.

I was born a Muslim and lived all my life as a follower of Islam.

After the barbaric terrorist attacks done by the hands of my fellow Muslims everywhere on this globe, and after the too many violent acts by Islamists in many parts of the world, I feel responsible as a Muslim and as a human being to speak out and tell the truth to protect the world and Muslims as well from a coming catastrophe and war of civilizations.

I have to admit that our current Islamic teaching creates violence and hatred toward non-Muslims.

We Muslims are the ones who need to change.

Until now we have accepted polygamy, the beating of women by men, and killing those who convert from Islam to other religions.

We have never had a clear and strong stand against the concept of slavery or wars, to spread our religion and to subjugate others to Islam and force them to pay a humiliating tax called jizia.

We ask others to respect our religion while all the time we curse non-Muslims loudly (in Arabic) in our Friday prayers in the mosques.

What message do we convey to our children when we call the Jews "descendants of the pigs and monkeys"? [Yet, both Arabs and Jews are descendants of Ibrahim (Abraham)!]

Is this a message of love and peace, or a message of hate?

[TBC]
Posted by Loudmouth, Sunday, 8 November 2015 1:54:17 PM
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[continued]

I have been into [Christian] churches and [Jewish] synagogues where they were praying for Muslims.

While all the time, we curse them, and teach our generations to call them "infidels", and to hate them.

We immediately jump in a 'knee jerk reflex' to defend Prophet Mohammad when someone accuses him of being a paedophile while, at the same time, ..we are proud with the story in our Islamic books that he married a young girl seven years old [Aisha] when he was above 50 years old.

I am sad to say that many, if not most of us, rejoiced in happiness after September 11th and after many other terror attacks.

Muslims denounce these attacks to look good in front of the media, but we condone the Islamic terrorists and sympathise with their cause.

Until now our 'reputable' top religious authorities have never issued a fatwa or religious statement to proclaim Bin Laden as an apostate, while an author, like Rushdie, was declared an apostate who should be killed according to Islamic Shari'a law just for writing a book criticizing Islam.

Muslims demonstrated to get more religious rights as we did in France to stop the ban on the hijab (head scarf), while we did not demonstrate with such passion and in such numbers against the terrorist murders. It is our absolute silence against the terrorists that gives the energy to these terrorists to continue doing their evil acts.

[TBC]
Posted by Loudmouth, Sunday, 8 November 2015 1:55:19 PM
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[continued]

We Muslims need to stop blaming our problems on others or on the Israeli/Palestinian conflict.

As a matter of honesty, Israel is the only light of democracy, civilization, and human rights in the whole Middle East .

We kicked out the Jews with no compensation or mercy from most of the Arab countries to make them "Jews-free countries" while Israel accepted more than a million Arabs to live there, have their own nationality, and enjoy their rights as human beings. In Israel, women cannot be beaten legally by men, and any person can change his/her belief system with no fear of being killed by the Islamic law of 'apostasy,' while in our Islamic world people do not enjoy any of these rights.

I agree that the 'Palestinians' suffer, but they suffer because of their corrupt leaders and not because of Israel .

It is not common to see Arabs who live in Israel leaving to live in the Arab world.

On the other hand, we used to see thousands of Palestinians going to work with happiness in Israel , its 'enemy.' If Israel treats Arabs badly as some people claim, surely we would have seen the opposite happening.

We Muslims need to admit our problems and face them. Only then we can treat them and start a new era to live in harmony with human mankind.

Our religious leaders have to show a clear, and very strong stand against polygamy, paedophilia, slavery, killing those who convert from Islam to other religion, beating of women by men, and declaring wars on non-Muslims to spread Islam.

Then, and only then, do we have the right to ask others to respect our religion.

Please pass this on as far as possible and help spread this paradigm shift in Muslim thinking.

Maybe it will germinate & grow.

....

Joe - I certainly hope so, so that we can live in peace, but only with integrity, genuine community, and honesty.
Posted by Loudmouth, Sunday, 8 November 2015 1:58:09 PM
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In the light of the atrocities in the Sinai, Beirut and now Paris, we must support our fellow-Australian Muslims to root out the scum within their midst who may be supporting these sorts of low-life mongrels, or planning to copy-cat their activities.

Not all Muslims wholeheartedly support terrorism: we all have to believe that. So in their efforts to expose and cast out anybody within their midst who supports such vile acts, the Muslim population of Australia needs the support of the non-Muslim community wherever possible.

IF, IF these vile, gutless actions have indeed been carried out by Islamists, and IF, IF there are Muslims in Australia who support these murders of innocent people, then the Muslim population has an extra obligation to identify and expel such criminals, and for that reason, they need our support. IF, IF the Koran can be used to justify such criminal acts, then the Muslim population may need our sympathy as they disavow such interpretations.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Saturday, 14 November 2015 2:42:01 PM
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Joe be realistic. It would mean betraying their family member or a
member of their tribe. That would bring down the tribe on their head
and maybe cost them their life.
It is just the way it is, it has been what they grew up with.
They just will not do it. Facilities have been made to enable them to
dob in a terrorist and it has reported a few, but very few judging by
the very few comments that have been made about the hotline by government.
Posted by Bazz, Saturday, 14 November 2015 5:21:32 PM
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